Thread: Pat Shurmur Hire is Imminent

That was QUICK. Mentioned in another thread, but deal seems imminent. Pat Shurmer will replace Scangarello.

Couldn't have asked for a better oc. Shurmer is a nother Wade Phillips or norv Turner type. Amazing enough coordinator to get multiple hc jobs. This is my ideal hire. Old well established vet coordinator who is probably never going to leave for another hc position

Hope he sticks around for more than a year

Originally Posted by slim

Hope he sticks around for more than a year

Nobody is going to give this guy another HC job after failed stints in Cleveland and New York. We will have him for as long as he is successful. He did really good work with Keenum, Bradford, and Foles.

I honestly don't think Scangarello gets fired unless this was already a done deal.

Originally Posted by UnderArmour

Nobody is going to give this guy another HC job after failed stints in Cleveland and New York. We will have him for as long as he is successful. He did really good work with Keenum, Bradford, and Foles.

I honestly don't think Scangarello gets fired unless this was already a done deal.

Dont forget McNabb and Jones. And who else could get 3000 yards and 20+ TDs out of Colt McCoy. Dude is a QB whisperer. Great hire for this offense and Lock. Significant improvement

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

Dont forget McNabb and Jones. And who else could get 3000 yards and 20+ TDs out of Colt McCoy. Dude is a QB whisperer. Great hire for this offense and Lock. Significant improvement

His record with QBs is impressive, but it does point out how conservative the Broncos want their offense to be. They want to run the ball like S.F. and have Lock be like Garoppolo and not throw it too much.

Originally Posted by Cugel

His record with QBs is impressive, but it does point out how conservative the Broncos want their offense to be. They want to run the ball like S.F. and have Lock be like Garoppolo and not throw it too much.

This is just not true, Shurmur doesnt run a conservative offense....you can agree or disagree on whether he is a good selection for us, but there is no factual basis to saying he runs a conservative offense.

Originally Posted by Cugel

His record with QBs is impressive, but it does point out how conservative the Broncos want their offense to be. They want to run the ball like S.F. and have Lock be like Garoppolo and not throw it too much.

From what I read last night, they are saying Shurmur is exactly the opposite of what you are saying, "conservative."

They said he will put Lock back in shotgun, which he is comfortable with. Expect him to stretch the field and take many more shots downfield. While not completely eliminated, far less throws to the TEs and RBs.

Assuming the above is true (mostly an SI article, but some others as well), it sounds like Shurmur is far from a conservative OC.

In one of the articles it pointed out how Lock's gunslinger mentality will mesh well with Shurmur expecting him to take shots down field.

Originally Posted by UnderArmour

Nobody is going to give this guy another HC job after failed stints in Cleveland and New York. We will have him for as long as he is successful. He did really good work with Keenum, Bradford, and Foles.

I honestly don't think Scangarello gets fired unless this was already a done deal.

Seems like a modest upgrade at best. I'll be glad when I'm proven wrong

Originally Posted by slim

Seems like a modest upgrade at best. I'll be glad when I'm proven wrong

We have to give him his chance. He may excel here, and make Lock into a HoFer.

Originally Posted by Nomad

We have to give him his chance. He may excel here, and make Lock into a HoFer.

I'm all about chances. Let's roll!!

i hate this

I wonder why Reid overlooked him when Childress moved on from Philly. Hired Morningwheg (sp?) who had been away from pro ball for four years instead of his same-aged QB coach who he'd had for 5 or so years. What did Reid not like about him?

Shurmur is a solid pick though, so I get it. I like his analytic chops and mind for the game. You can look at the positives and get stoked.

My gut feeling is that it's a slight upgrade but disrupts QB chemistry. Chemistry for it's own sake is dumb as dirt if the people involved suck, and you could make that case about Scangarello. I won't argue that you are wrong, he did suck and there was plenty to criticize.

What I liked about Scangarello was how much he got out of his rookie QB. Looked like Scangarello was good at prep and you hoped the in-game blitz-chess guy would show up after a year on his belt. We'll never know. Elway and Fangio have proven year after year that they know what they are doing, so I'll sit back and watch. Cautiously pessimistic--I would have rolled with Scangarello, but the replacement makes sense, and pulling the trigger now is the right time.

Now let's get the man a line and a dominant run game.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

I wonder why Reid overlooked him when Childress moved on from Philly. Hired Morningwheg (sp?) who had been away from pro ball for four years instead of his same-aged QB coach who he'd had for 5 or so years. What did Reid not like about him?

Shurmur is a solid pick though, so I get it. I like his analytic chops and mind for the game. You can look at the positives and get stoked.

My gut feeling is that it's a slight upgrade but disrupts QB chemistry. Chemistry for it's own sake is dumb as dirt if the people involved suck, and you could make that case about Scangarello. I won't argue that you are wrong, he did suck and there was plenty to criticize.

What I liked about Scangarello was how much he got out of his rookie QB. Looked like Scangarello was good at prep and you hoped the in-game blitz-chess guy would show up after a year on his belt. We'll never know. Elway and Fangio have proven year after year that they know what they are doing, so I'll sit back and watch. Cautiously pessimistic--I would have rolled with Scangarello, but the replacement makes sense, and pulling the trigger now is the right time.

Now let's get the man a line and a dominant run game.

The rookie QB is everything. It's all that matters

Originally Posted by slim

The rookie QB is everything. It's all that matters