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    There has been talk here on the board about Bolles and whether he has improved year on year or not. Some say yes, others no. MHR did an in depth look at the year on year and determined that his technique has not improved and that is what is causing his challenges even now. Other folks were quoting PFF and they're support of Bolles and the debate continued. The question of why did they see him as a "good" tackle when so many of us do not was raised and I believe this may clarify that. I think what it answers is the age old question of "how the hell did they give xxx player THAT grade?" Did they even look at the tape?

    Process over results: I swear we didn’t put him up to this, but one of the first things that Ben mentioned when he came onto the show was that one of the key criticisms they get at PFF is that they don’t watch the tape, which he stated isn’t true at all - “that’s all we do,” he said, at least as it relates to how they formulate their grades.

    Linsey said their goal with their grades is to really look at process over results. Which was music to mine and Joe’s ears. He went on to describe the PFF grading process, which was great to hear first hand about something that often feels like a black box.

    While he acknowledged that it isn’t perfect (no one metric or methodology is), Ben walked us through the overarching goal with grades, is to assess whether a particular player did their job on a given play or not. Based on how well or not so well they did their job, their assigned a grade, anywhere from -2 through +2, in half point increments.

    This led to some interesting discussion as we talked through how to reconcile what we were seeing on tape, and what PFF was seeing when they have graded Bolles as about an average-ish left tackle over the last year.

    Here’s a nugget we stumbled on as we talked through it, and just goes to show the value of sitting down and talking football with people, I always learn something.

    The primary distinction, or disconnect, that we discovered is while both of us are attempting to parse out the process vs just the result or measurable stat, where we focused on the technique used and less on how Bolles actually did on the play, PFF leaned more towards ‘did he do his job’, regardless of how it looked or if he used proper technique.

    Linsey said essentially, “even if it’s ugly” as long as the player did their job (protected the QB, walled off their block in the run game) that’s a positive in PFF’s grading system.

    Which makes sense, especially for Bolles. He is athletic enough at times to recover when he’s initially beat due to bad technique, and still potentially get a piece of the blocker, leading to his job being done. However, his continuing to do that job with repeated poor technique is what leads to the inconsistency - sometimes it bites him and sometimes it doesn’t.

    So, PFF isn’t necessarily dinging him for bad hand placement and opening up his hips too early, as long as he can chase his guy past the QB after he’s beat, and my analysis wasn’t setup to give him credit for still doing his job, even if it was ugly, as I was looking at repeatability and specific improvements in technique.
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    That’s PFF in a nutshell, they love Parastiff even though he gets plowed just because the dude that plowed him tripped over his limp body on his way to the ball carrier.

    It’s really ok to expect better, it has and will continue to dictate what the Broncos can and cannot trust their LT to do.
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    https://www.espn.com/blog/denver-bro...ur-must-answer

    Turns out Bolles’ “competition” recently had foot surgery, so we’ve got that going for us ... which is nice.
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    The NFL and the NFL Players Association sent a planner to the 32 teams Sunday outlining procedures for the full reopening of their practice facilities, which were closed because of the coronavirus pandemic.

    In a lengthy four-part memo to the clubs written by commissioner Roger Goodell and approved by the NFLPA, the league described protocols focusing on screening, testing, infection prevention and treatment for COVID-19, including response for new infections. Also included were instructions on proper facility access; cleaning and disinfecting; physical distancing; hygiene, health education and medical services; food preparation; supplies; and team travel.

    No timetable has been set for the return of most players to team complexes; only players rehabilitating injuries have been allowed to enter the buildings. But this is the next major step toward allowing all players back in club facilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
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    Turns out Bolles’ “competition” recently had foot surgery, so we’ve got that going for us ... which is nice.

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    A little more before anyone has done anything preseason hype.

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    If any of you are like me and missed this when it aired here's your chance. Hey Rookie, Welcome to the NFL. Jerry Judy and KJ Hamler get some good time.

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    Default Broncos DC Admits Bradley Chubb Is ‘Full Speed’ After Suffering A Torn ACL Last Season

    (CBS SPORTS) – Expectations were sky high for Bradley Chubb heading into his second season with the Denver Broncos. A member of the All-Rookie Team in 2018 and one of the NFL’s Top 100 players, Chubb’s sophomore season was a disaster as the edge rusher was limited to just four games with a torn ACL last year.

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    Kareem Jackson tests positive for COVID.

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    Peyton Manning Delivers Powerful Message to Rookies in Broncos' Team Meeting per Report

    Per multiple sources, Manning attended a meeting with Broncos rookies recently, surprising the players. They were told beforehand to be prepared to take diligent notes, but the topic was not revealed. Manning discussed several points with the prospects.
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