Thread: Report: Growing strife in Denver between head coach Vic Fangio and his players and staff.

Originally Posted by ShaneFalco

ive already link it like a million times.

Shanny Jr Interviewed with Elway and Ellis together. Elway wanted him, but Ellis held his last name against him. This was all reported by Schlereth, dmac and a few other.

What I found is that it's just speculation. We know Elway has a history wanting and pursuing Vance Jospeh.

I guess we know that Ellis stopped us from getting Shanahan Sr. But...that's probably just not being an idiot.

It's also worth mentioning the fact that Kyle couldn't have been hired during the time of the interview because the Falcons were in the playoffs. Joseph was of the last batch interviewed in Denver. https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-bro...ahan-51081146/

There were also rumors that Shanahan wanted more power than John was willing to give up. He has a decent amount of power in San Francisco.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49...el-power-49ers

Originally Posted by Timmy!

This is a lot of words to say not a lot.

I have to admit that I saw the word count and my eyes jumped about, looking for payoff. I read the ending, some leading sentences, but nothing grabbed me.

Kinger is an incisive fellow, that much is plain. But sometimes we just ramble and I wonder if that is the case here.

On the other hand, I should just buckle in and read his words. I think my impatience got the better of me, as it does from time to time.

Sorry Kinger.

Originally Posted by King87

The Bengals denied us VJ. https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...dinator-012015

Elway wanted him as our DC.

https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/201...os-head-coach/

VJ was almost hired back when we signed Kubiak, too.

Joseph, 44, was the team’s second choice when they hired Gary Kubiak in 2015, according to Klis. He coached under Kubiak while at the Houston Texans alongside several coaches on Denver’s current staff.



https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-job/96302856/

Elway said Monday his top offseason priority, ahead even of fixing myriad problems on offense, was keeping his defense dominant.

Elway thought VJ was going to be a brilliant defensive coach, had a history of wanting him, and focused on him.

This isn't an Ellis thing. It's an Elway thing.

Fake news.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

I have to admit that I saw the word count and my eyes jumped about, looking for payoff. I read the ending, some leading sentences, but nothing grabbed me.

Kinger is an incisive fellow, that much is plain. But sometimes we just ramble and I wonder if that is the case here.

On the other hand, I should just buckle in and read his words. I think my impatience got the better of me, as it does from time to time.

Sorry Kinger.

King is smart, I'm just making sure he doesn't go all joel on us

Originally Posted by Timmy!

King is smart, I'm just making sure he doesn't go all joel on us

I've gone all joel.

don't ever go all joel.

No offense joel.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

I've gone all joel.

don't ever go all joel.

No offense joel.

Chemically assisted doesn't count

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

I have to admit that I saw the word count and my eyes jumped about, looking for payoff. I read the ending, some leading sentences, but nothing grabbed me.

Kinger is an incisive fellow, that much is plain. But sometimes we just ramble and I wonder if that is the case here.

On the other hand, I should just buckle in and read his words. I think my impatience got the better of me, as it does from time to time.

Sorry Kinger.

In the NBA, and in the underworld, the saying is 'Shooters shot'. Sometimes you miss. Or sometimes you give every ounce of analysis you have, and it's over kill.

Maybe the 'source' was Flacco

Elway had some thoughts on this report

Josh McDaniels agrees, John.

Originally Posted by King87

Josh McDaniels agrees, John.

Tom Coughlin almost being out of a job and having to revamp his entire approach doesn't agree, John.

And yes, ever situation is different. Sometimes it's players, sometimes it's coaches who endure the brunt of it. But if you think how you treat people in a game where almost everyone has an ego, and where your reputation is king, somehow doesn't matter...spare me. I'm not saying the reports are necessarily true, but it's pretty ******* believable.

Originally Posted by King87

Tom Coughlin almost being out of a job and having to revamp his entire approach doesn't agree, John.

And yes, ever situation is different. Sometimes it's players, sometimes it's coaches who endure the brunt of it. But if you think how you treat people in a game where almost everyone has an ego, and where your reputation is king, somehow doesn't matter...spare me. I'm not saying the reports are necessarily true, but it's pretty ******* believable.

We have had bitch ass players in our LR for a long time....Kubiak was a players coach through and through....VJ was a wannabe players coach...Fangio tells it how it is doesn't play favorites and is pretty blunt about it. No doubt in this new woke generation people have some hurt feelings about being told they aren't doing very well...

Originally Posted by King87

Tom Coughlin almost being out of a job and having to revamp his entire approach doesn't agree, John.

And yes, ever situation is different. Sometimes it's players, sometimes it's coaches who endure the brunt of it. But if you think how you treat people in a game where almost everyone has an ego, and where your reputation is king, somehow doesn't matter...spare me. I'm not saying the reports are necessarily true, but it's pretty ******* believable.

MO would call them established facts

I dont care what Fangio does so as long as he fixes the problem and starts winning games. If he cant do that it doesnt matter who he calls out and for what.

Originally Posted by slim

MO would call them established facts

The day bleeds into night fall.
And you're not here, to get me through it all.
I let your guard down, and then you pulled the rug.
I was getting kind of used to being someone you loved.