Thread: Report: Growing strife in Denver between head coach Vic Fangio and his players and staff.

I'm historically not a huge Jason La Canfora fan, and don't always put a ton of stock in the national stories like this... But if nothing else, some of these quotes seem to indicate a lot of tension between Fangio and the offensive assistants. Not super encouraging.

"There is a negative reaction to almost every offensive play call," said one source with knowledge of the situation.

Other sources noted a disconnect between the offense and defense as well, with Fangio's "people skills," in their minds, lacking. There is almost no discussion beyond football, sources said, and that, coupled with some staff and personnel issues as well as lingering angst over an eventual sale of this franchise, has created a difficult climate around the team.

"Pretty much everyone gets treated like (crap)," said one source with knowledge of the situation, "but if anything I think it's brought the (coaches) on offense closer together."

"There is a negative reaction to almost every offensive play call," said one source with knowledge of the situation.

I mean ...27th in total offense, 28th in the passing game, 28th in points ...

Maybe there’s a reason for that?

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

I mean ...27th in total offense, 28th in the passing game, 28th in points ...

Maybe there’s a reason for that?

Right - it strikes me as the type of thing that winning would fix, or a little bit of success on that side of the ball... So I hope it's more about that than any flawed management style. Could just be one offensive assistant having a pity party here.

Originally Posted by Buff

Right - it strikes me as the type of thing that winning would fix, or a little bit of success on that side of the ball... So I hope it's more about that than any flawed management style. Could just be one offensive assistant having a pity party here.

I’ve been grumbling all year about play calling, as everyone obviously knows, so I’m predisposed to agree with, reportedly, Fangio here. But when you’re bottom five in the league and the head coach isn’t happy, this isn’t on the head coach’s ******* people skills.

The offensive staff has its feelings hurt cause Vic is probably not kissing their ass......

To me it is fangio, he will not release The offense to let it fly. He wants a run first team and that is old school like him.

Fighting like two retards over a booger.

Nothing credible here. If memory serves, La Canfora used to be fairly reliable with the latest on Steeler drama last year and wrote a favorable pieces painting Munchak as our front runner. Maybe this is coming from Munchak, where there seems to be a strong correlation between La Canfora coverage and where this guy is working.

Allbright refuted it and Schefter (whose inside source seems to be Elway himself) hasn't confirmed.

Fangio also needs to get that 2nd half defense fixed. It’s pathetic. If any Broncos defenders are reading this, I’m not scared. You probably couldn’t come close to stopping me either.

Get rid of the coaches/players he doesn’t like, bye Felicia.

Originally Posted by spikerman

Fangio also needs to get that 2nd half defense fixed. It’s pathetic. If any Broncos defenders are reading this, I’m not scared. You probably couldn’t come close to stopping me either.

Don’t listen to Spiker, Broncos defenders, you saved the team from a huge mistake today.

I liked the Fangio hire - but it’s hard not to wonder if all this pain could have been avoided simply hiring Kyle Shanahan over Vance Joseph.

Some mistakes you don’t recover from.

Personal skills matter...

I've noticed a trend with Fangio and how he speaks about others. I don't blame him for being upset with his coaches. But you can't treat everyone like crap and expect to allure anyone worth getting to come here.

Originally Posted by tomjonesrocks

I liked the Fangio hire - but it’s hard not to wonder if all this pain could have been avoided simply hiring Kyle Shanahan over Vance Joseph.

Some mistakes you don’t recover from.

I agree with you 1000% on this. And all of that can be placed squarely at John's feet. as much as I've been an elway apologist for the last couple of years because his drafting acumen seems to have improved immensely, I cannot defend him on this one.

he became obsessed with Vance Joseph when Mike Brown wouldn't allow us to sign him as defensive coordinator and I've said this before, and cheek but it's reality. Mike Brown deserves a ring as much as elway does for keeping elway from hiring Vance Joseph as our defensive coordinator. John spent two years pining over the girl he couldn't have and then gave perfunctory interviews to people like Kyle shanahan when to everybody in the world knew that Joseph would be the hire.

if you just imagine that we could be three years into Kyle shanahan's tenure with Wade Phillips still as our defensive coordinator tell me how that sits with you. Phillips is still one of the premier defensive coordinators in the game and we could have one of the premier offensive minds in the game as our young head coach. This by the way is the guy who has led the niners to a 9 and 1 record in the NFC West.

Could have Kyle Shanatan and Scangereally? as QB Coach with Wade Phillips as DC.