Thread: Report: Growing strife in Denver between head coach Vic Fangio and his players and staff.

Originally Posted by Cugel

That is the understatement of the century!

All this could have been eliminated if they hired Kyle Shanahan. IF and only IF they also hired they also hired John Lynch to handle player personnel in concert with Shanahan however.

If John Elway were left in charge of the draft and FA the last 4 years, the exact same result would have happened. 5-11, 6-10. We tested the theory that it was Vance Joseph not the crappy players Elway picked that was the problem.

This season explodes that myth. Fangio is clearly superior to Vance in about every way (admittedly a low bar to clear). But, the result isn't any better.

This team simply isn't good enough to win consistently, and that's 100% Elway's fault.

And this is at least your 50th version for showing your hate for Elway.

Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol)

And this is at least your 50th version for showing your hate for Elway.

Respectfully, Carol, you're being unfair. He doesn't hate Elway just because he's critical.

Originally Posted by King87

Respectfully, Carol, you're being unfair. He doesn't hate Elway just because he's critical.

Like a broken record or parrot?

Originally Posted by King87

Respectfully, Carol, you're being unfair. He doesn't hate Elway just because he's critical.

No. He clearly hates Elway.

Originally Posted by slim

No. He clearly hates Elway.

You don’t know what’s in his heart.

Originally Posted by King87

You don’t know what’s in his heart.

We all know. It's established fact.

I thought Cugel was enraptured with Elway when he drafted Lynch? Perhaps Cugel is just a weathervane of sorts?

104.3 reported tonight that shefter is saying la canfora is full of shit. Said he may have gotten 1 snippet and completely embellished that entire piece. Shefter has spoken with players and says no truth to that article.

Originally Posted by GEM

104.3 reported tonight that shefter is saying la canfora is full of shit. Said he may have gotten 1 snippet and completely embellished that entire piece. Shefter has spoken with players and says no truth to that article.

There's always someone butthurt in any organization--and often for good reason. It's just the way of things and not any kind of news.

Like that one guy on the Pats who didn't get invited to the Superbowl. It's just people in groups doing people things.

Fangio...I wouldn't mind seeing another year or two. Needs to get better, but we need continuity too.

I want to see Fangio and Scangarello with a decent QB and a decent O-line.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

There's always someone butthurt in any organization--and often for good reason. It's just the way of things and not any kind of news.

Like that one guy on the Pats who didn't get invited to the Superbowl. It's just people in groups doing people things.

Fangio...I wouldn't mind seeing another year or two. Needs to get better, but we need continuity too.

I want to see Fangio and Scangarello with a decent QB and a decent O-line.

This, and I want to see if he can learn from mistakes. Scags has shown ability to improve at least.

Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol)

And this is at least your 50th version for showing your hate for Elway.

Ctrl-c, Ctrl-v.

Originally Posted by Timmy!

This, and I want to see if he can learn from mistakes. Scags has shown ability to improve at least.

Now about those second half adjustments....

Originally Posted by Mike

Now about those second half adjustments....

Its interesting for sure....Devontae Had poor coverage and let digs burn him a bit, cost us 7 points, Chris Harris and the safety didn't communicate and it cost us 7, Dawson failed in coverage on Rudolph cost us 7......21 points we gave them in the second half and we had players in position to stop all 21 points and failed to do so.....not sure any adjustment could have solved what happened....

All indications are this story was about as accurate as a daily news release from CNN. Integrity in media, to include sports media is dead. Second hand sources and hearsay are now considered "news", add that to this list and take anything this hack says in the future with a grain of salt.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

I want to see Fangio and Scangarello with a decent QB and a decent O-line.

Good luck with that!