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Thread: Report: Growing strife in Denver between head coach Vic Fangio and his players and staff.

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    Flacco is done. At best he is a backup next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Losing stinks. Losing like they did yesterday really stinks. This is about the time players start grumbling, so Fangio does need to tread carefully or risk losing the locker room.

    Coaches need to do a better job with second half adjustments and players (looking at you McAnus) have to execute. That said, this team has a lot of young talent to build on. If Denver can have a good draft and FA, I expect them to be competing next year. I am not giving up on the staff, but, man, the lack of second half adjustments is glaring.
    The LR was Mess going all the way back to 2015...only reason it didn't implode then was because its Peyton manning.....But the offense vs defense thing has been going on for awhile.....so much so that some of those defensive players like wolfe and haris were talking smack coming off bad games themselves and everyone just kind of ignored it....Then VJ compounded it by trying to play both sides and constantly benching the wrong players.....

    Personally I hope Fangio stomps all over that LR, they have needed an ass kicking for awhile and Kubes and VJ were never going to be those types of coaches. It remains to be seen if this is what we need but we have had back to back coaches kiss players and staffs ass, so maybe its time to go the other way with it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    The LR was Mess going all the way back to 2015...only reason it didn't implode then was because its Peyton manning.....But the offense vs defense thing has been going on for awhile.....so much so that some of those defensive players like wolfe and haris were talking smack coming off bad games themselves and everyone just kind of ignored it....Then VJ compounded it by trying to play both sides and constantly benching the wrong players.....

    Personally I hope Fangio stomps all over that LR, they have needed an ass kicking for awhile and Kubes and VJ were never going to be those types of coaches. It remains to be seen if this is what we need but we have had back to back coaches kiss players and staffs ass, so maybe its time to go the other way with it....

    Just my 2 cents.....
    If anyone is leaking info to the media, I would be looking at players that aren't happy with not playing currently or who were traded during the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneFalco View Post
    yup, but stink flat out said on foxsports that the board held Shanny Jrs last name against him.
    Don't think Stink has many sources left in that building after all the criticism

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    Fangio will be HC of the Year next year - book it

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    This team is still playing hard for Fangio, I don't buy it. He is working on changing the culture and we have a great young core that is a few bad series away from being 7-3. If Fangio doesn't get at least 3 seasons including this one we suck as an organization. Its nice to have an adult back in the room right now and for some reason I feel better about THIS shitty season than I have the last few and I think its because I finally think they have some direction and something to build around.

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    #Broncos Fangio was asked if needed to bring staff together and make sure they were all on same page after the CBS national report saying there was lockerroo strife and issues with coaches. His answer: "No." .... #Denver7

    Also, on Troy's twitter, there is a video with this:


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    So about the report of lockerroom strife and player issues with #Broncos coach Fangio. I addressed it last night on #Denver7. Talked to 10 players yesterday. And have discussed with numerous others over last few weeks on and off record. Here’s what I have seen and know.

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    Sanders and Flacco talking shit. Bank on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazam! View Post
    Sanders and Flacco talking shit. Bank on it.
    I don't agree with Flacco, but in Troy's video he said something like "reported strife in the locker room and there really was with one player - Emmanuel Sanders, and he has been traded."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazam! View Post
    Sanders and Flacco talking shit. Bank on it.
    My first thought was Sanders as well. Flacco just seemed openly critical once out of frustration but Sanders was brewing for awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol) View Post
    I don't agree with Flacco, but in Troy's video he said something like "reported strife in the locker room and there really was with one player - Emmanuel Sanders, and he has been traded."
    I agree, I hate Flacco, but I don't think he is a source of this BS....Maybe the WR coach, Sanders and a couple assistants, maybe Bolles but I don't buy its Flacco....for all his failings he is a 12 year vet and knows better......
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    I wouldn't rule out Flacco - La Canfora is a Baltimore area guy - it stands to reason Flacco could be a source. In any case, some tension is to be expected with the season we've had -- I just hope it's not a harbinger of doom on how Fangio manages people. At this stage, we're just speculating. He needs a couple more seasons before we can judge him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomjonesrocks View Post
    I liked the Fangio hire - but it’s hard not to wonder if all this pain could have been avoided simply hiring Kyle Shanahan over Vance Joseph.

    Some mistakes you don’t recover from.
    That is the understatement of the century!

    All this could have been eliminated if they hired Kyle Shanahan. IF and only IF they also hired they also hired John Lynch to handle player personnel in concert with Shanahan however.

    If John Elway were left in charge of the draft and FA the last 4 years, the exact same result would have happened. 5-11, 6-10. We tested the theory that it was Vance Joseph not the crappy players Elway picked that was the problem.

    This season explodes that myth. Fangio is clearly superior to Vance in about every way (admittedly a low bar to clear). But, the result isn't any better.

    This team simply isn't good enough to win consistently, and that's 100% Elway's fault.

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