Thread: If Brandon Allen Makes This Looks So Easy...

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

That was beautifully put.

I’m not sure he ever won a play off game though, and Robert Griffin has had success “in his prime”

My thought is if we wanted average talent game managers we should have stuck with any of our post manning qbs .... but since we are looking for something else, Allen needs to go in place of lock and of lock is going to have rg3 or schaub level talent..... let’s swing again

He has one or two wins. RG3 had a lot of success for one year. Crazy what one injury will do to him. I'm not saying that I want Brandon Allen as our starting QB. I'm just saying that prime Schaub was really good for awhile. He wasn't great. But having prime Schaub would be akin to having a legitimate Pro Bowl QB. That's all. I don't think Allen is even Schaub level good. On that I should have been clearer, because the lack of that statement lead to the inference of 'hey, Allen's good enough potentially, we ride.'

I want Lock to get a good chance on the field. And if we have to take a Qb in the first round, guns blazing.

Gotcha

we disagree on schaub but agree on Allen

Alles klar

Here's the hot take - Schaub made/saved Kubiak and not the other way around. Kubiak got good production out of MS, because MS was good. Kubiak got average production out of Joe Flacco, because at the time Joe Flacco was average. TS sucked and Kubiak got sucky production out of him. Kubiak never elevated anything.

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

That was beautifully put.

I’m not sure he ever won a play off game though, and Robert Griffin has had success “in his prime”

My thought is if we wanted average talent game managers we should have stuck with any of our post manning qbs .... but since we are looking for something else, Allen needs to go in place of lock and of lock is going to have rg3 or schaub level talent..... let’s swing again

All of this and then some....TS was below Avg., and needed everything around him to go right to even sniff success. Case was subpar and so was Flacco.....The end result is I would have rather had the cheaper Sub par QB then the 18 mil a year subpar QB regardless of their arm strength.....Its all a wash now....hopefully we do the right thing get Lock ready to play, start him ride the rest of the way with him and determine if were back to the drawing board in next years draft and FA......

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

All of this and then some....TS was below Avg., and needed everything around him to go right to even sniff success. Case was subpar and so was Flacco.....The end result is I would have rather had the cheaper Sub par QB then the 18 mil a year subpar QB regardless of their arm strength.....Its all a wash now....hopefully we do the right thing get Lock ready to play, start him ride the rest of the way with him and determine if were back to the drawing board in next years draft and FA......

Fair!

Originally Posted by Northman

I would rather wait for Lawrence. Keep stocking draft picks and use them to move up and grab his ass.

Like half the league is going to be trying to get Lawrence. Banking that we'll be the team is a risky as hell strategy. I'd rather roll with what we got and build elsewhere.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Like half the league is going to be trying to get Lawrence. Banking that we'll be the team is a risky as hell strategy. I'd rather roll with what we got and build elsewhere.

Agreed, and to be honest Lawrence really isn't having a great year this year either.....the hype train slowed down for me a bit that's for sure......

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Like half the league is going to be trying to get Lawrence. Banking that we'll be the team is a risky as hell strategy. I'd rather roll with what we got and build elsewhere.

It will be comparable to the atmosphere of when Luck was up for grabs. If TL has a big season and is still seen as the godly prospect of gods, the asking price would be so high that it would be impossible.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Like half the league is going to be trying to get Lawrence. Banking that we'll be the team is a risky as hell strategy. I'd rather roll with what we got and build elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

Agreed, and to be honest Lawrence really isn't having a great year this year either.....the hype train slowed down for me a bit that's for sure......

Originally Posted by King87

It will be comparable to the atmosphere of when Luck was up for grabs. If TL has a big season and is still seen as the godly prospect of gods, the asking price would be so high that it would be impossible.

Except most of the league is already getting their #1 QB's. I like our chances!

Flacco is an immobile QB who can't escape the rush. Since our OL is still subpar when it comes to pass-blocking, we need a guy who can escape the rush. I'm not sure that's a strong suit of Lock either but he seems more escapable than Flacco. As we watch Jackson, Wilson and Watson make chicken salad out of chickens--t on a regular basis, Broncos fans notice that as soon as somebody breaks through the line, Denver's play is essentially over with Flacco at QB.

Originally Posted by King87

I suppose we just have radically different views.

Schaub took his team to the playoffs, and he had a great/good defense and a strong running game.

*cough*Tebow*cough*

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

Jaded I understand why you feel that way....But he isn't that player anymore.....he just isn't.....

He was that player just 20-some days ago.

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

Agreed, and to be honest Lawrence really isn't having a great year this year either.....the hype train slowed down for me a bit that's for sure......

He’s back on track now.

Originally Posted by Jaded

He was that player just 20-some days ago.

he was that player for a few brief moments per game and that was about it.....you could say that about half the scrub QB's in the NFL that are starting......from opening game to 20 days ago he was choking in the redone and 3rd down constantly while throwing hail Mary's from the 10 yd. line out the back of the end zone on 3 consecutive plays cause he saw a different colored jersey 5 yds away.....

Best QB on the team, legit NFL starter ... so he can’t run option ... Lamar Jackson can’t read a defense.

6 of one/half dozen the other. A starter is a starter.