Thread: Mark Schlereth Rips Elway on National TV!

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

I don't dispute how his offense was doing but his defense was a shit show run by his friend Slowik and he refused to get rid of him.....To me that was the final straw for Bowlen who wanted very much to be back in the playoffs and wouldn't settle for anything less. I wasn't stoked he got fired, but I certainly saw where Bowlen was coming from as the owner....

Slowik wasn’t the only issue with that defense, it was time to invest draft capital into that side of the ball ... instead they ended up drafting Kevin Faulk v2.0 and a 4-3 LDE to play 3-4 OLB. Then they trade a 1st round pick for a 2nd round CB that never played a significant down.

Bowlen ****** up, he’s the one that plunged this organization into the abyss that only JFE could pull them out of.

To his credit it was .500-ish records that turned him sour on Shanatan, but patience was the smart move.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Slowik wasn’t the only issue with that defense, it was time to invest draft capital into that side of the ball ... instead they ended up drafting Kevin Faulk v2.0 and a 4-3 LDE to play 3-4 OLB. Then they trade a 1st round pick for a 2nd round CB that never played a significant down.

Bowlen ****** up, he’s the one that plunged this organization into the abyss that only JFE could pull them out of.

To his credit it was .500-ish records that turned him sour on Shanatan, but patience was the smart move.

No your right lots of problems on defense, I really do believe though had he got rid of Slowik and brought in a legit DC he might have been given some more time and that patience you speak of would have happened. also Bowlen knew we were headed the wrong way after MCD which is why he brought Elway back to begin with. Elway made some shrewd moves and brought us back, but the last 4 years he has struggled overall.

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

No your right lots of problems on defense, I really do believe though had he got rid of Slowik and brought in a legit DC he might have been given some more time and that patience you speak of would have happened. also Bowlen knew we were headed the wrong way after MCD which is why he brought Elway back to begin with. Elway made some shrewd moves and brought us back, but the last 4 years he has struggled overall.

I think you’re right that Shanatan wouldn’t fire Slowik, in hindsight that isn’t a deal breaker for me. Doogie made Slowik look like Lombardi.

Having said all this, they probably don’t win a SB otherwise, thanks to John Elway.

Originally Posted by Jaded

I think you’re right that Shanatan wouldn’t fire Slowik, in hindsight that isn’t a deal breaker for me. Doogie made Slowik look like Lombardi.

Having said all this, they probably don’t win a SB otherwise, thanks to John Elway.

Yeah I'm not so sure I'm ready yet to bail on Elway(he has some shit to fix though) and I certainly am not ready to bail on this coaching staff, I was headed there at OC a bit but he surprised me with play calling Sunday...so maybe that will trend in the right direction going forward....Fangio has said all along its a process to find the right combo of players and how to play them in his system....he never alluded to overnight success and he stays pretty grounded with expectations.....

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Unpopular opinion: That Cutler draft actually sucked. Four head cases including an overrated quarterback.

Cutty still living rent free in your head a decade later i see

If we had Pat here I don't think Elway would be struggling as badly as he is. Pat probably would've provided the Executive leadership Elway seems to be missing, he almost certainly would've vetoed the VJ hire, we'd almost certainly have Shanny Jr. as our HC, we'd most likely still have some folks "assisting" Elway in his duties, a larger scouting staff, etc.

While Elway's performance has been below his standard and below Bronco's standard as of late the REAL problem is the leadership vacuum and lack of direction from the top.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Shanatan’s performance was the best offense in the league the year he got fired.

That ‘06 draft was killing it, Clady helped an OL that gave up less than 10 sacks that year, along with Ryan Harris from the ‘07 draft.

Iirc 06 draft was Dumervil and Marshall...right?

Originally Posted by atwater27

Cutty still living rent free in your head a decade later i see

Nah. One playoff win, none for Denver. But go ahead, keep telling me how great Jay Cutler was.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Iirc 06 draft was Dumervil and Marshall...right?

Yes, plus the TE and the QB that lives in MO’s head.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Yes, plus the TE and the QB that lives in MO’s head.

Doesn't ring a bell.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Doesn't ring a bell.

Cutler and Scheffler.

Originally Posted by King87

Cutler and Scheffler.

Still not ringing a bell.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Still not ringing a bell.

Stop styling on me.

3rd best QB in Broncos history.

Originally Posted by Jaded

3rd best QB in Broncos history.

Jake Plummer.