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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    I keep seeing the Redskins as the destination for the tackle we all want. What is the status of the stud LT they already have and would he be in play for Denver via a trade or in FA?
    I think it is still murky.
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    Y’all know I’m an OL Groupie but I think Jeudy is going to be worth missing out on a T, knock on wood.

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    We need a OT in top end of draft. This is a long time weakness that plug n play FA has never worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    We may have to go this route if Chris leaves but digs in the draft would be a good selection.....The FA class isn't that deep. Marcus Peters, Byron Jones and James Bradberry are probably your top 3, but I doubt Peters makes it out of Baltimore and Jones out of Dallas. Then again Money talks......
    no way Dallas can pay Jones. . .
    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    I keep seeing the Redskins as the destination for the tackle we all want. What is the status of the stud LT they already have and would he be in play for Denver via a trade or in FA?

    sure, but buyer beware. . .
    “When we do find that guy, we’ve got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don’t find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot.”
    - John Elway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    I keep seeing the Redskins as the destination for the tackle we all want. What is the status of the stud LT they already have and would he be in play for Denver via a trade or in FA?
    I keep hoping the redskins cut Keenum and we can trade Flacco to them with Bolles for Trent Williams…Some team is going to trade for him maybe it will be us still a lot of unknows with Williams at this time....
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    Denver's 2024 George Paton Draft/FA plan

    Draft
    RD1- TE Brock Bowers, GA
    RD3- QB Spencer Rattler, SC
    RD4- CB Josh Newton, TCU
    RD5- S Reggie Pearson, OK
    RD5- C Michael Jurgens, Wake Forest
    RD6- K Jonah Dalmas, Boise St

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    1. With what money

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    sure, but buyer beware. . .
    I would agree with this, there are concerns there to consider....
    Denver's 2024 George Paton Draft/FA plan

    Draft
    RD1- TE Brock Bowers, GA
    RD3- QB Spencer Rattler, SC
    RD4- CB Josh Newton, TCU
    RD5- S Reggie Pearson, OK
    RD5- C Michael Jurgens, Wake Forest
    RD6- K Jonah Dalmas, Boise St

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    1. With what money

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    no way Dallas can pay Jones. . .
    I saw something where they were thinking about Franchising him.....wonder if that's even possible for them over dak especially....him and cooper is gonna cost them Mucho dollars.....Not to mention Dak…..If I was going to spend on a CB in FA it would probably be him if Chris walks....But Bradberry could be a good consolation....I think Bausby is pretty legit if he makes it back as well....I could see a scenario where Callahan and Bausby are 1 and 2 and then Dawson and a 1st or 2nd rd rookie come into play also....

    The OL FA class isn't that great overall, and Correct me if I'm wrong but McGovern is a FA as well. Can anyone confirm this....I wasn't tracking that. I know Leary we have a option on, and he wasn't horrible this year, but he is to injury prone for me to take that option so I'm letting him walk in FA I think....

    I think OT needs a high prospect, and the Right Guard and Center Positions could use some help for sure. Even more so if we don't sign McGovern.....
    Denver's 2024 George Paton Draft/FA plan

    Draft
    RD1- TE Brock Bowers, GA
    RD3- QB Spencer Rattler, SC
    RD4- CB Josh Newton, TCU
    RD5- S Reggie Pearson, OK
    RD5- C Michael Jurgens, Wake Forest
    RD6- K Jonah Dalmas, Boise St

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTerror218 View Post
    We need a OT in top end of draft. This is a long time weakness that plug n play FA has never worked.
    Most agree with you but we cant just go into the draft going I need a OT and when the value is off Reach anyway....That's how we got stuck with Bolles…..
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    Denver's 2024 George Paton Draft/FA plan

    Draft
    RD1- TE Brock Bowers, GA
    RD3- QB Spencer Rattler, SC
    RD4- CB Josh Newton, TCU
    RD5- S Reggie Pearson, OK
    RD5- C Michael Jurgens, Wake Forest
    RD6- K Jonah Dalmas, Boise St

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    1. With what money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    I keep hoping the redskins cut Keenum and we can trade Flacco to them with Bolles for Trent Williams…Some team is going to trade for him maybe it will be us still a lot of unknows with Williams at this time....
    If Elway sold those lemons for profit, more power to him.

    Also--some controversy: is Bolles turning a corner? Or are they shiftin and chippin?
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    "You know cos I just lost my parents--both my parents died in the same year...to this day, people come up to me and say 'my dad died and that album really meant a lot to me,' which is very nourishing {pats heart} for a songwriter to hear that your songs have a utility beyond just their own solace, that it actually helps other people."

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    What irks me is that the year we drafted Bolles we let Okung walk. Okung sucked here. He then went to S.D./LA Chargers and had some good years. That's how bad our coaching/scheme was.

    I ******* hate it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Y’all know I’m an OL Groupie but I think Jeudy is going to be worth missing out on a T, knock on wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    What irks me is that the year we drafted Bolles we let Okung walk. Okung sucked here. He then went to S.D./LA Chargers and had some good years. That's how bad our coaching/scheme was.

    I ******* hate it.
    Has Okung been solid? I want to say he's a penalty monster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    If Elway sold those lemons for profit, more power to him.

    Also--some controversy: is Bolles turning a corner? Or are they shiftin and chippin?
    I have never been that down on Bolles, I think a lot of his penalties are reputation penalties the last 2 years.....He can be upgraded sure, but I think people fail to realize just how bad OL development has been in college with the love of the spread lately.....for me Bolles is a middle of the pack starter, who struggles to get over a bad play at times, and can be inconsistent but for every holding penalty there are plenty of other plays in the same game where he straight owns his dude.....I think he has talent at the position he just don't show it all the time. The big thing he needs in my opinion is someone to challenge him for his spot....whether it be a rookie or a FA. I think had James been healthy when Bolles was having his streak of BS James would have sent him to the bench.....that might have been the final wake-up call he needed.

    I have said it before though we could far worse then him at that position....Imagine if we had a Menlik Watson or Donald Stephenson at LT
    Denver's 2024 George Paton Draft/FA plan

    Draft
    RD1- TE Brock Bowers, GA
    RD3- QB Spencer Rattler, SC
    RD4- CB Josh Newton, TCU
    RD5- S Reggie Pearson, OK
    RD5- C Michael Jurgens, Wake Forest
    RD6- K Jonah Dalmas, Boise St

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Has Okung been solid? I want to say he's a penalty monster.
    He is middle of the pack to....
    Denver's 2024 George Paton Draft/FA plan

    Draft
    RD1- TE Brock Bowers, GA
    RD3- QB Spencer Rattler, SC
    RD4- CB Josh Newton, TCU
    RD5- S Reggie Pearson, OK
    RD5- C Michael Jurgens, Wake Forest
    RD6- K Jonah Dalmas, Boise St

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    1. With what money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    I have never been that down on Bolles, I think a lot of his penalties are reputation penalties the last 2 years.....He can be upgraded sure, but I think people fail to realize just how bad OL development has been in college with the love of the spread lately.....for me Bolles is a middle of the pack starter, who struggles to get over a bad play at times, and can be inconsistent but for every holding penalty there are plenty of other plays in the same game where he straight owns his dude.....I think he has talent at the position he just don't show it all the time. The big thing he needs in my opinion is someone to challenge him for his spot....whether it be a rookie or a FA. I think had James been healthy when Bolles was having his streak of BS James would have sent him to the bench.....that might have been the final wake-up call he needed.

    I have said it before though we could far worse then him at that position....Imagine if we had a Menlik Watson or Donald Stephenson at LT
    Laremy Tunsil leads the NFL in penalties and made the Pro-Bowl.

    I'm not saying we don't draft Wirfs if he is available, but I also don't think replacing Bolles is the #1 priority

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
    Laremy Tunsil leads the NFL in penalties and made the Pro-Bowl.

    I'm not saying we don't draft Wirfs if he is available, but I also don't think replacing Bolles is the #1 priority


    Im still leaning towards CB. IF we cannot get Okudah, then imo we do like we did last year. We jump back to late teens/20 and grab that Center that is really good. I could be swayed on a nice DE/NT too. Then we will have 2 2nds and 3 3rds. That is more than enough ammo to land us a OT and WR and a few others.

    For me, for right now. Its Okudah or another TOP CB or move back.

    PS- I think the chargers are going to go for a QB too. I also think a team may try to move up with us for a QB should one fall.
    The Plan at the moment:

    Draft: Trade a 3rd and 6th this year to a team to move up and get a 2nd next year (this will happen).

    Players I want:
    Jake Ferguson (Jake Butt) or Jelani Woods or Jeremy Ruckert or Cade Otten (owen daniels) at TE- All 4th rd or later.
    Troy Anderson LB 3rd/4th rd (yay Timmy!)
    Neil Farrell, JR DL- run stuffer- bye purcell

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