Thread: 2020 Draft QBs

Originally Posted by Northman

At the same time we did go to 2 SB's and won one of them. It hasnt all been bad.

I don't disagree, we have had good times, but it has been absolutely bad for the last 3-4 years were almost at historical bad levels as a franchise. If we lose to Indy Sunday it will be our worse 3 year stretch since 1970-1972 or something like that, with the potential to be even worse as the season progresses. We got big problems no matter how we look at it. We keep breaking all the wrong records lately....

If we didn't have ownership issues, the owner would have cleaned house already......right, wrong, or indifferent

According to OTC, if the Broncos cut Flacco Pre-June 1st the dead cap hit would be $3.4 M (versus adding $20 M in cap space) ... let’s be honest, that’s not exactly cost prohibitive.

I could be wrong but let’s not worry about cutting/not cutting Flacco if this is true.

Edit; btw, if OTC is correct the Broncos have $64 in cap space in ‘20, this doesn’t have to be an extended rebuild.

Originally Posted by Jaded

According to OTC, if the Broncos cut Flacco Pre-June 1st the dead cap hit would be $3.4 M (versus adding $20 M in cap space) ... let’s be honest, that’s not exactly cost prohibitive.

I could be wrong but let’s not worry about cutting Flacco if this is true.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-b...e-flacco-4000/

Originally Posted by King87

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-b...e-flacco-4000/

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/denver-broncos/

Click on 2020 cap liabilities.

Spotrac sucks.

Originally Posted by Jaded

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/denver-broncos/

Spotrac sucks.

Mo and BDB said it's cost prohibitive, and as such I believe them. I Stan Mo, even though he bullies me.

Originally Posted by Jaded

According to OTC, if the Broncos cut Flacco Pre-June 1st the dead cap hit would be $3.4 M (versus adding $20 M in cap space) ... let’s be honest, that’s not exactly cost prohibitive.

I could be wrong but let’s not worry about cutting/not cutting Flacco if this is true.

Edit; btw, if OTC is correct the Broncos have $64 in cap space in ‘20, this doesn’t have to be an extended rebuild.

Sorry, this is supposed to be “Post-June 1st cut”, huge difference.

Originally Posted by King87

Mo and BDB said it's cost prohibitive, and as such I believe them. I Stan Mo, even though he bullies me.

It’s cost prohibitive if they don’t designate it “Post-June 1st”, which they wouldn’t do.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Sorry, this is supposed to be “Post-June 1st cut”, huge difference.

https://www.milehighreport.com/2019/...on-in-cap-room

Originally Posted by King87

https://www.milehighreport.com/2019/...on-in-cap-room

I get that but if you designate it post-June it spreads the dead money out.

Originally Posted by Jaded

According to OTC, if the Broncos cut Flacco Pre-June 1st the dead cap hit would be $3.4 M (versus adding $20 M in cap space) ... let’s be honest, that’s not exactly cost prohibitive.

I could be wrong but let’s not worry about cutting/not cutting Flacco if this is true.

Edit; btw, if OTC is correct the Broncos have $64 in cap space in ‘20, this doesn’t have to be an extended rebuild.

Yeah there are a couple different sites reporting different things....most of the articles about the restructure when it happened alluded to strange timing because it created a huge dead money hit to cut him next year if needed....at the end of the day, Elway should only keep his job if he is finally willing to rebuild after this season.....Flacco shouldn't be a part of that. I would rather go with a lock and Allen combo and develop youth then hope flacco can get us to a 8-8 season.....

That possible cap space is great, but all were probably going to attract is money chasers, not necessarily elite talent at this point. If they are talented as well so be it.....but I'm not hedging we can make some sound calls in FA based off the last few years. Jackson is probably our best FA acquisition of the last few years....

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

Yeah there are a couple different sites reporting different things....most of the articles about the restructure when it happened alluded to strange timing because it created a huge dead money hit to cut him next year if needed....at the end of the day, Elway should only keep his job if he is finally willing to rebuild after this season.....Flacco shouldn't be a part of that. I would rather go with a lock and Allen combo and develop youth then hope flacco can get us to a 8-8 season.....

That possible cap space is great, but all were probably going to attract is money chasers, not necessarily elite talent at this point. If they are talented as well so be it.....but I'm not hedging we can make some sound calls in FA based off the last few years. Jackson is probably our best FA acquisition of the last few years....

I like Flacco, I just wanna see y’all hurtin over his dead money, I think the Broncos gave themselves a reasonable escape plan.

I could be wrong, but if hurtin you is wrong I don’t wanna be right.

Originally Posted by Jaded

I like Flacco, I just wanna see y’all hurtin over his dead money, I think the Broncos gave themselves a reasonable escape plan.

I could be wrong, but if hurtin you is wrong I don’t wanna be right.

I think no one really knows the more I read, what the hit will be. I have seen anywhere from 3 mil to 24 mil......I will say this though....I know you hate 8-8 and I'm pretty sure Flacco has shown nothing so far that proves he is capable of even obtaining that I'm not so sure we have a reasonable escape plan regardless of the cap hit.....because it seems Elway is currently okay with a QB Disgracing himself on National TV......

Jaded.....Flacco does make me hurt, so please don't be right

What in the paint-huffing, rabbit-fornicating hell is this?

https://www.9news.com/article/sports...d-d7b502c725b9

If 4-5 occurs, Riddick might join Patrick as the choices for activation as, lord knows, the Broncos could use additional offensive help. Riddick, when last seen in Detroit, was a nice pass-catching threat out of the backfield. He would not take carries away from Phillip Lindsay or Royce Freeman.

But if the Broncos are 2-7 or 3-6 at the bye, Lock would likely start practicing in week 11. The plan at that point would be to practice three full weeks before Lock would be activated as a backup QB for the final four games of the season with a chance to play in the final game or two.

To rush a rookie quarterback who misses half the preseason and regular season with an injury is to do more harm than good.

I love going into a draft where I have a chance to draft another QB if I've busted on my 6th straight one, but I decide I don't wanna know if this one is a bust beforehand.

LT or bust in the first I guess? We'll find out if we have a QB after we find a way to keep that warm body alive? None of this makes sense to me, and the Broncos have forfeit the benefit of the doubt.

Devil's attorney: how valuable is the information gathered from Lock in games where the OL obfuscates a clean QB evaluation, he's not taking practice snaps with 1's, and he's still learning a pro offense designed for Flacco.

Personally, I think Flacco should be benched, assets purged for value, and they should make a commitment to a bespoke offense built for Lock.