Thread: Elway: No Broncos are on the trading block --SANDERS TRADED

Originally Posted by King87

How drunk does John (allegedly) get?

I'll take the heat for throwing out that garbage rumor. That's all it is. There are some tmz and other clips where John is sauced, but who doesn't get lit every now and then.

This is my crackpot theory, ok...Farve, Kosar, lots of these dudes from this era are prone to CTE/ALS. You think QB, no big deal, right? Ken Stabler, autopsied stage 3. That dude didn't play near as much as Elway.

Then there's the fix you get from playing NFL ball. When that's gone there's a tendency to replace it.

These factors often lead to mental health issues.

I don't know that any of this is more than rank speculation. Just don't know one way or the other, but see some things and let intuition run free.

So it's an unknown but real probability that's just flapping around out there.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

I'll take the heat for throwing out that garbage rumor. That's all it is. There are some tmz and other clips where John is sauced, but who doesn't get lit every now and then.

This is my crackpot theory, ok...Farve, Kosar, lots of these dudes from this era are prone to CTE/ALS. You think QB, no big deal, right? Ken Stabler, autopsied stage 3. That dude didn't play near as much as Elway.

Then there's the fix you get from playing NFL ball. When that's gone there's a tendency to replace it.

These factors often lead to mental health issues.

I don't know that any of this is more than rank speculation. Just don't know one way or the other, but see some things and let intuition run free.

So it's an unknown but real probability that's just flapping around out there.

Lest we forget that Elway was the most sacked QB in NFL history when he retired.

If only we could sack him one last time.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

There are ALWAYS GM candidates. There are plenty of underlings all over the league ready to get their shot. Stop thinking these guys aren’t replaceable.

Who said anything about irreplaceable? Read my post again. I'm asking for names of these "underlings" all over that you all think would be a good fit as GM of the Broncos.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

...Joe Douglas, Eliot Wolf, George Paton, Mike Borganzi, Joe Hortiz...

There’s plenty of GM candidates.

Follow up question, what is it about these guys that you like?

Originally Posted by LawDog

Follow up question, what is it about these guys that you like?

They don't have a brand loyalty stranglehold over the city in which they (potentially) operate?

Originally Posted by wayninja

They don't have a brand loyalty stranglehold over the city in which they (potentially) operate?

Like John Lynch in SF?

Originally Posted by LawDog

Like John Lynch in SF?

Just like anyone who isn't a legendary sports icon for the particular market.

Originally Posted by wayninja

Just like anyone who isn't a legendary sports icon for the particular market.

If we do get rid of Elway eventually, I'd definitely want to bring in someone with no ties whatsoever to the Denver good old boys club. That's my one hangup with Manning, that he'd also get the hero worship and hang around longer than he should. If we're going to start over, I want to find the smartest, hungriest young assistant GM we can get and start a new culture here. The more we try to cling to the past, the worse I think it's going to get.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

If we do get rid of Elway eventually, I'd definitely want to bring in someone with no ties whatsoever to the Denver good old boys club. That's my one hangup with Manning, that he'd also get the hero worship and hang around longer than he should. If we're going to start over, I want to find the smartest, hungriest young assistant GM we can get and start a new culture here. The more we try to cling to the past, the worse I think it's going to get.

What if PFM was the youngest, hungriest most intelligent candidate......... would you bite your nose off to spite your face.......?

You probably would you hideous bugger

Originally Posted by LawDog

Follow up question, what is it about these guys that you like?

They’re finding talent for winning teams.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Do we want the replacememt the 'process' would generate?

Maybe we do. Maybe the process works.

This is similar to the “we don’t need draft picks because our GM sucks” argument. Of course you need draft picks. You don’t stop acquiring picks because you made bad ones before. And if you continue to make bad draft picks you change the people who are making the decisions on the draft picks. There’s always risk, but when you stop taking risks just for continuity, despite being a bad football team, then you get the situation that the Browns, the Jets and the Raiders have been in. Cleveland, for their part, took a risk and is trying the moneyball approach with Paul Depodesta. That’s even riskier than what I think Denver should do, and that’s just find a solid up-and-coming GM candidate and let him hire his scouts.

Should have traded Sanders to Indy for Chad Kelly. Would have made more sense

Originally Posted by ShaneFalco

Should have traded Sanders to Indy for Chad Kelly. Would have made more sense

You have a sickness.

Originally Posted by ShaneFalco

Should have traded Sanders to Indy for Chad Kelly. Would have made more sense

Except that you don't have to offer compensation for practice squad players. Guy could be had by all 31 other GMs right this very second. #vacuumtube