Thread: What is the best new phone?

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Usability is just as important as specs though, if not moreso. Apple can have better specs while overall being a worse product due to usability. In any case, Joe has already said his original post sucked and should have been worded better.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Well at least we can both agree that Joe is the devil.

You are the MSNBC of BroncosForums!

Originally Posted by FanInAZ

I don't know about Apple, but you can get at least a half dozen versions of Battleship, chess, solitaire, etc., ranging from garbage versions to adequate.

There has to be more to this than homemade Battleship apps. Anyone?

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

You are the MSNBC of BroncosForums!

I overlooked your first misstep - but now I have no choice but to demand you G-T-F-O of my thread. You're all on thin ice here.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

There has to be more to this than homemade Battleship apps. Anyone?

I'm pretty sure that at least 99.9% of the quality apps that you can get on 1 you can also get on the other.

Originally Posted by Buff

I overlooked your first misstep - but now I have no choice but to demand you G-T-F-O of my thread. You're all on thin ice here.

BroncoWave is now officially Rachel Maddow to me.

There. I said it.

Originally Posted by SR

Apple doesn't create the apps. The Waze app is not created by Apple. The Weather Channel app is not created by Apple. So on and so forth. They are very much more restrictive, but their software and tightassness is what keeps their OS running so smoothly.

Tell me moar about this tightassness.

I may have to give apple a closer look.

Originally Posted by slim

Tell me moar about this tightassness.

I may have to give apple a closer look.

Slim <3 Apple's turdcutter.

I have an iPhone 8 Plus. I’m not sure what a newer phone can do that this one doesn’t. The technology seems maxed out at this point. The only thing that changes are the cameras.

Originally Posted by Slick

I have an iPhone 8 Plus. I’m not sure what a newer phone can do that this one doesn’t. The technology seems maxed out at this point. The only thing that changes are the cameras.

The newer phones typically get more storage space, higher battery capacity, and more RAM. They definitely get a bit better year by year. Probably not by enough to get a new one every year, but I think it's worth it to upgrade every 2-3 years.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

The newer phones typically get more storage space, higher battery capacity, and more RAM. They definitely get a bit better year by year. Probably not by enough to get a new one every year, but I think it's worth it to upgrade every 2-3 years.

I’m not a very good example, but I waited twice that and drove a phone into the ground. I’ve been kind of blown away by this phone, but I’m not naive as to why, I had a really old version that was dying.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

I’m not a very good example, but I waited twice that and drove a phone into the ground. I’ve been kind of blown away by this phone, but I’m not naive as to why, I had a really old version that was dying.

I'm like UR in that I use my phone pretty heavily for things like games and streaming so mine are usually pretty bad after 2 years. I don't even own a laptop anymore and I have a tablet that pretty much collects dust, so I do pretty much everything online on my phone.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Right. I get this, but what does that actually mean?

For apps that exist on both platforms, it means almost nothing. Other than the device specific gestures and other idiosyncrasies, the apps are effectively identical.

The difference is in the marketplaces. Apple operates as a "walled garden", which basically that means that if a developer writes an app and wants to sell it in the apple marketplace, it needs to be "approved" by apple first. The approval process costs more for developers for apple than it does for android. Android has basically the opposite philosophy where all applications are allowed and only removed if some information about why they should be removed comes to light.

What this ends up meaning, is that more developers want to write their applications for Android. It's simply less of a hassle all around. That's why Androids marketplace has steadily grown faster than Apples and now is about 20% larger, and that gap is growing every day. Ultimately though, the most popular apps are on both platforms. You can also sideload apps on android (which is just a fancy way of saying loading stuff that's not on the official store), which you can't do on iOS.

Android devices tend to be more financially competitive than Apples as well. That's not to say it's the exact same hardware and design and a lower cost, just that the bang for your buck on Android devices tend to be higher (you pay for the Apple name).

The biggest thing for me though, is the customization options that the Android OS has that Apple just doesn't. Apples whole philosophy is "you shouldn't need to change anything, because our way is the right way". Android offers WAY more ability to tweak the OS to your liking and even exposes elements of the base UI to be accessible by 3rd party apps so you can truly work the way you want to.

Originally Posted by wayninja

For apps that exist on both platforms, it means almost nothing. Other than the device specific gestures and other idiosyncrasies, the apps are effectively identical.

The difference is in the marketplaces. Apple operates as a "walled garden", which basically that means that if a developer writes an app and wants to sell it in the apple marketplace, it needs to be "approved" by apple first. The approval process costs more for developers for apple than it does for android. Android has basically the opposite philosophy where all applications are allowed and only removed if some information about why they should be removed comes to light.

What this ends up meaning, is that more developers want to write their applications for Android. It's simply less of a hassle all around. That's why Androids marketplace has steadily grown faster than Apples and now is about 20% larger, and that gap is growing every day. Ultimately though, the most popular apps are on both platforms. You can also sideload apps on android (which is just a fancy way of saying loading stuff that's not on the official store), which you can't do on iOS.

Android devices tend to be more financially competitive than Apples as well. That's not to say it's the exact same hardware and design and a lower cost, just that the bang for your buck on Android devices tend to be higher (you pay for the Apple name).

The biggest thing for me though, is the customization options that the Android OS has that Apple just doesn't. Apples whole philosophy is "you shouldn't need to change anything, because our way is the right way". Android offers WAY more ability to tweak the OS to your liking and even exposes elements of the base UI to be accessible by 3rd party apps so you can truly work the way you want to.

Thanks, this makes a little more sense. But I still just have no clue what that last bit means. Work the way you want? Like do what? And I owned an Android at one time. I don’t understand what you’re changing.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Thanks, this makes a little more sense. But I still just have no clue what that last bit means. Work the way you want? Like do what? And I owned an Android at one time. I don’t understand what you’re changing.

It's vague because it's so broad. You can change layout of the homescreen, add widgets and shortcuts or even manipulate the entire interface by using a launcher.

It requires that you KNOW what you want to do. If you are happy with the default workflow/interface of the iOS, it's not a big deal. But for folks that expect to be able to refine how they work over time, iOS just sucks for that.

Here are some things you can do on Android but not iPhone

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdn...n-your-iphone/