Thread: Who should get the most blame for the Broncos 0-3 start?

Isn't 'rebuilding' shorthand for 'find a franchise QB'?

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Isn't 'rebuilding' shorthand for 'find a franchise QB'?

It means a lot of things including allowing the QB's to actually play more than a handful of games.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Isn't 'rebuilding' shorthand for 'find a franchise QB'?

It can also be shorthand for sell the farm and stockpile picks... but I suppose all of that is usually in an effort to find that franchise QB...

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Isn't 'rebuilding' shorthand for 'find a franchise QB'?

That's the heart of it. That, and stocking up on inexpensive young talent on the rookie contracts, and trying to hord assets like draft picks and cap space. It definitely entails not spending big money on mediocre veteran quarterbacks.

Originally Posted by dogfish

That's the heart of it. That, and stocking up on inexpensive young talent on the rookie contracts, and trying to hord assets like draft picks and cap space. It definitely entails not spending big money on mediocre veteran quarterbacks.

And y'all thought I was bitching too much for the past several seasons!

These are some of the most excellent posts I have ever seen on this board. I fall into the ‘we have no franchise QB therefore we suck’ camp. I know it’s too simplistic but that’s how I feel. I am trying to give the team the benefit of the doubt on the tough learning curve of a new OC, DC, HC and the new systems all have brought with them. These things take time.

Who gets the blame? Fangio and the defense, imo.

Fangio cant get pressure with his scheme- so he needs to fix it- or at least how he plays the front 4. I do not care how weird the games are or how fast the other team gets the ball out. If they get the ball out, then press the WRs. Make them get tackled right when they catch it. Why sit back and sit back. His scheme for the front 4 is ineffective and we cannot just say well not every team will get the ball out fast enough....or we dont have the lead so we cannot rush the passer. That is super stupid and one sided. Find their strength and knock it out. Find our weakness and fix it.

Right now everything is beating his defense. Everything.


He gets the most blame. the offense looks better than it has in years (not saying much). His defense should not be this bad. Stupid VJ and his DC had a better defense.




Fix the defensive pressure and turnovers and this team can still make 10 wins. Dont and this team is lucky to have 4. Fangio needs to unfangio the dline. (I did like that we had demarcus walker and von and chubb in though. That was a nice pressure pacakge, too bad it was only 3 players against 6. Everyone got double teamed but I like that personalle groupoing.

Yeah. Fangio is pissing me off something terrible. We paid von Miller like a quarterback, and drafted Chubb instead of one. this whole roster is put together for those guys to be our top playmakers. Can't be dropping them into freaking 5-yd hook zones, or using them to take away the dump off out in the flat on a regular basis. This offense just plain doesn't have the horses to go out score good teams on a week to week basis. Flacco's not that guy. Von and Chubb need to be our big-time weapons. Bend but don't break defense isn't going to get it done. We need some short fields in the worst way.

Teams that win the turnover battle win games. We have zero turnovers in our favor. That should be everything you need to know about an 0-3 start.

This weekend we get to face the Jagwads at home. They have a rookie QB. If we aren’t lighting him up and forcing him to beat us then Fangio should be fired on the spot. If I’m the HC/DC I blitz this fool every damned play until he beats it. I’m not kidding. I rush 5-6 defenders every play. Stop the run on the way to the QB. On paper, Minshew should be quaking in his boots to face our defense. We have 2 premier pass rushers and a solid secondary. His Oline isn’t good, either. We should own this game.

For all intents and purposes this should be the game the defense breaks out but Fangio and Donatell must drop the damn leash and release the hounds. No more bend but don’t break. Attack every down. Roll the line. I want to see Miller, Chubb, Reed and Jones, and Shelby Harris all rushing at the same time. A good old fashioned **** yo couch blitz and I wanna see it often!

Our defense is the strength of our team. It must lead us to wins.

Originally Posted by dogfish

Yeah. Fangio is pissing me off something terrible. We paid von Miller like a quarterback, and drafted Chubb instead of one. this whole roster is put together for those guys to be our top playmakers. Can't be dropping them into freaking 5-yd hook zones, or using them to take away the dump off out in the flat on a regular basis. This offense just plain doesn't have the horses to go out score good teams on a week to week basis. Flacco's not that guy. Von and Chubb need to be our big-time weapons. Bend but don't break defense isn't going to get it done. We need some short fields in the worst way.

If we’re gonna waste their talent like that, just go with a 4-3 base defense and let Chubb and Miller play DE. At least they’d rush the QB on passing downs...

We have talent. We don’t have the right HC. Fangio sucks.

"I hope you find some guys to protect that franchise QB", signed Andrew Luck (retired NFL veteran).

I like the way you think, Nomad. Maybe we can lure Luck out of retirement!

Lock. Not Luck!

None of it matters if Elway doesn't learn from his repeated mistakes.