Thread: Fire John Elway

Originally Posted by Cugel

Quote Originally Posted by wayninja View Post
I don't like flacco, at all, and have never been a proponent of his.... having said that, he's definitely the best QB we've had here since Manning.

You're right. He's definitely better than Trevor Siemian (did you see the Jets game?)
He's also better than Osweiler who is out of football altogether at 28 years old.
He's also better than Paxton who is currently on the Steelers' practice squad after getting cut by the Seahawks.
He's also better than Case Keenum who threw 3 INTs against the Bears last night.

Is that where we're at in Denver? Satisfied with total mediocrity? "At least he's not as bad as Paxton!"

Gotta see what Locks.got if not.... Herbert?

Originally Posted by Cugel

You're right. He's definitely better than Trevor Siemian (did you see the Jets game?)
He's also better than Osweiler who is out of football altogether at 28 years old.
He's also better than Paxton who is currently on the Steelers' practice squad after getting cut by the Seahawks.
He's also better than Case Keenum who threw 3 INTs against the Bears last night.

Is that where we're at in Denver? Satisfied with total mediocrity? "At least he's not as bad as Paxton!"

FFS. I didn't say any of that. Better is better. We aren't talking about a scrub who spectacularly flamed out of the NFL in a few years, we are talking about a franchise vet who has been to, won, and was MVP of a superbowl. That's not something you go get at 7-11.

The point was, that Flacco is no Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson, but he's a helluva lot better than those other scrubs you mentioned. Other than some REALLY poorly timed redzone turnovers, which I would argue is not sustainable, we'd be 1-2 or possibly even 2-1.

He's not this teams biggest issue.

You are making me seem... optimistic. I don't like it.

Originally Posted by Shazam!

I think he needs help and cant do it himself anymore.

He's never done it by himself nor does he now. We have a personnel department for a reason

Originally Posted by Cugel

You're right. He's definitely better than Trevor Siemian (did you see the Jets game?)
He's also better than Osweiler who is out of football altogether at 28 years old.
He's also better than Paxton who is currently on the Steelers' practice squad after getting cut by the Seahawks.
He's also better than Case Keenum who threw 3 INTs against the Bears last night.

Is that where we're at in Denver? Satisfied with total mediocrity? "At least he's not as bad as Paxton!"

Keenum, that's it! I couldn't remember his name!

Originally Posted by Cugel

Twice as a GM? He came in, got rid of Tebow, and signed Peyton. That's once. As a player doesn't count since he wasn't GM, Mike Shanahan was.

He built the best offense in history (went to a SB) and then switched gears and built one of the best defenses in history (won the SB).

That’s twice.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Keenum, that's it! I couldn't remember his name!

*Keesum.

Originally Posted by Jaded

*Keesum.

That's that style!

Anyone who fires Elway is a dummy.

Yeah, I said it.

Replace him with exactly who?



Man people can be reactive.

Originally Posted by WARHORSE

Anyone who fires Elway is a dummy.

Yeah, I said it.

Replace him with exactly who?



Man people can be reactive.

You replace him with another GM. I know he is the franchise’s greatest player. I have all the feels and the nostalgia, too.

But as a GM, he is not infallible. How many losing years do you endure? This is going to be the third in a row. So is it four? Five?

I am very disappointed BUT idk if this Is the way either.

His biggest mistakes IMO were VJ and Fang... We still don't know...

I know if they get hammered at home by Jax omg people will lose it

Even Elway muat remember the 0x4 1994 Season...

Also next year a whole lotta long time Broncos are gonna be gone. Harris, Wolfe, Simmons come to mind immediately. Someone gotta fill this Roster.

If I were Elway id hire new scouting and personnell consultants

Originally Posted by WARHORSE

Anyone who fires Elway is a dummy.

Yeah, I said it.

Replace him with exactly who?



Man people can be reactive.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

You replace him with another GM. I know he is the franchise’s greatest player. I have all the feels and the nostalgia, too.

But as a GM, he is not infallible. How many losing years do you endure? This is going to be the third in a row. So is it four? Five?

Like anything, you need to objectively measure performance and make adjustments when performance is inadequate to the goal or task.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

You replace him with another GM. I know he is the franchise’s greatest player. I have all the feels and the nostalgia, too.

But as a GM, he is not infallible. How many losing years do you endure? This is going to be the third in a row. So is it four? Five?

Agreed. I'd give Elway/Fangio 2 years. If we're sitting at the end of next season still a losing team with no signs of improvement, that's two straight head coaches who have failed. At that point, you can't really blame the coaches any more, you have to look at the top.

Originally Posted by WARHORSE

Anyone who fires Elway is a dummy.

Yeah, I said it.

Replace him with exactly who?

Isn't it obvious? Peyton Manning.

Originally Posted by wayninja

Isn't it obvious? Peyton Manning.

No, the obvious answer is Bubby Brister!

#stupidshanny