Thread: Antonio Brown Suspended for Week 1

Originally Posted by wayninja

If anyone needed this email/texts whatever to know that he isn't a great dude... And just for the record, I don't think these have been confirmed as genuine. Since he's now on team Brady, I'm sure his phone is in 3.4 million pieces and somewhere on the bottom of Boston Harbor.

But it's the pats... hiring "not great dudes" is sorta their thing.

Just doesn't even seem worth it for them. Brady and Belichick both already seem annoyed by all this at their media availability today. Why even let this distraction linger?

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Just doesn't even seem worth it for them. Brady and Belichick both already seem annoyed by all this at their media availability today. Why even let this distraction linger?

I wouldn't want any part of the dude either, but like I said, doing this shit is their jam.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Why would you even want the Pats to keep this guy at this point?

Why?

Because I would rather NE beat the Chiefs in the AFCCG 45-40 than lose to them 40-36.

Originally Posted by wayninja

So, just so I'm clear, the logic is that you should never hire a guy that could potentially be suspended in the future.

Weird how anyone is playing.

Way to leap to ridiculous conclusions!

No, this is no remote contingency.

This is the league potentially suspending a player who has been accused of rape. There's an existing lawsuit about a very serious allegation. I have no more real idea than you whether the allegations are true, but the league is potentially going to investigate, and the commissioner has the power to put Brown on the exempt list while they do that, which would mean he sits.

And from Belichick's presser this AM he doesn't sound happy about the distraction. Since the Patriots just crushed the Steelers without Brown, how much does Belichick think he even needs AB?

He probably wishes AB were in Jericho at this point. The media firestorm threatens to consume the singular focus the Patriots always maintain about preparing for games. The press was intent on asking the same questions about AB over and over, and he kept trying to ignore them but they kept asking.

This is not going to go away soon, and the Pats are going to have to address it one way or another. They are either going to have to get rid of AB or else come out and say "we believe him" or take some kind of position, which will then be subjected to intense media scrutiny and criticism.

Right in the middle of the season!

Originally Posted by WTE

Why?

Because I would rather NE beat the Chiefs in the AFCCG 45-40 than lose to them 40-36.

Way to sell your soul to Satan dude!

Actually, while Brown might help them, they will probably have home field advantage over the Chefs anyway now that Tyrek Hill will probably be out for a month. How many teams have beaten the Patriots at Gillette Stadium in January?

Originally Posted by Cugel

Way to leap to ridiculous conclusions!

No, this is no remote contingency.

This is the league potentially suspending a player who has been accused of rape. There's an existing lawsuit about a very serious allegation. I have no more real idea than you whether the allegations are true, but the league is potentially going to investigate, and the commissioner has the power to put Brown on the exempt list while they do that, which would mean he sits.

And from Belichick's presser this AM he doesn't sound happy about the distraction. Since the Patriots just crushed the Steelers without Brown, how much does Belichick think he even needs AB?

He probably wishes AB were in Jericho at this point. The media firestorm threatens to consume the singular focus the Patriots always maintain about preparing for games. The press was intent on asking the same questions about AB over and over, and he kept trying to ignore them but they kept asking.

This is not going to go away soon, and the Pats are going to have to address it one way or another. They are either going to have to get rid of AB or else come out and say "we believe him" or take some kind of position, which will then be subjected to intense media scrutiny and criticism.

Right in the middle of the season!

Again, to be clear, the league can potentially suspend any player. You keep dancing around this. Accusations aren't grounds for suspension. The lawsuit is civil. There was no police report filed.

I'm not saying this isn't potentially serious, just that at the present time, it's not, for all practical purposes, actually serious. It's an allegation and a civil lawsuit. That may warrant an investigation, but if the pats are convinced that AB is innocent, or more practically for their purposes, there is no evidence, then I don't see how this is more than a small speedbump, and maybe not even that.

You seem to be making lots of leaps as to what you think will happen while throwing out the word potentially. It makes me think that you don't know what that word means.

As much as I dislike the guy, if you dig into the public details of the accusations and suit, it doesn’t pass the smell test. False rape accusations of the rich and/or famous are so hot right now.

Former NFL Agent Expects Antonio Brown To Be Placed On NFL Commissioner’s Exempt List

video and article - https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2019...antonio-brown/

I think the Pat's could void all guarantees, recoup the signing bonus, and cut him right now based on this language in his contract:

“[If Brown] takes any action that materially undermines the public’s respect for, or is materially critical of, the club, the player’s teammates or the club’s ownership, coaches, etc..guarantees will be ‘null and void.'”

Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol)

Former NFL Agent Expects Antonio Brown To Be Placed On NFL Commissioner’s Exempt List

video and article - https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2019...antonio-brown/

We'll see. I think it's unprecedented for the league to put a player on that list for a civil lawsuit.

Originally Posted by wayninja

We'll see. I think it's unprecedented for the league to put a player on that list for a civil lawsuit.

I think so too. I don't think it's unprecedented ahead of formal charges though, I believe there have been players placed on it when the league expects charges to be filed.

Important to note: if on the exempt list the Pat's have to pay him. He can't play and they can't cut him.

Originally Posted by Davii

I think so too. I don't think it's unprecedented ahead of formal charges though, I believe there have been players placed on it when the league expects charges to be filed.

Important to note: if on the exempt list the Pat's have to pay him. He can't play and they can't cut him.

Yeah, that makes sense. I'm not sure that's really likely in this case though (or even possible?). Why would you LEAD with a civil lawsuit if you could bring criminal charges?

Originally Posted by wayninja

Yeah, that makes sense. I'm not sure that's really likely in this case though (or even possible?). Why would you LEAD with a civil lawsuit if you could bring criminal charges?

No idea. I don't want to get into debating the merits of her case, not the place. Only thought I have is to force action by authorities. Bill Cosby started out as a civil case as well.

Originally Posted by Davii

No idea. I don't want to get into debating the merits of her case, not the place. Only thought I have is to force action by authorities. Bill Cosby started out as a civil case as well.

Yeah, sorry, not trying to debate the merits, as I have no idea what the merits are at all. I think the Cosby case may have been a bit different though, as there were like, 50 accusers.

Originally Posted by wayninja

Yeah, sorry, not trying to debate the merits, as I have no idea what the merits are at all. I think the Cosby case may have been a bit different though, as there were like, 50 accusers.

Eventually. At first there was one.