Thread: Broncos Gameday Thread: Broncos vs 49ers 08/19/19

Their dominant was certainly on display last night!

Bolles is going to the Pro Bowl!

Originally Posted by slim

Their dominant was certainly on display last night!

*on displayed

They're dominant was on displayed!

Thanks!

Originally Posted by slim

They're dominant was on displayed!

Thanks!

*There

Originally Posted by Buff

Bolles led the league in holding in each of his first two seasons... He has not earned the benefit of the doubt that you're giving him.

Theres no benefit of doubt. Simply that if Bolles is amongst the worst and Peters is amongst the best- they were separated by 1 penalty.


In other words, if we were able to somehow trade Bolles for peters straight up- we would still be seeing the same number of penalties. And looking at most of the prominent LTs in the game they all are within 2 to 3 penalties of Bolles. So 0.18 penalties per game less than bolles.


Say he has bad technique, poor footwork, lazy, whatever. But the penalties aspect, it is for naught.

Originally Posted by slim

They're dominant was on displayed!

Thanks!

For certainly.

Originally Posted by underrated29

Theres no benefit of doubt. Simply that if Bolles is amongst the worst and Peters is amongst the best- they were separated by 1 penalty.


In other words, if we were able to somehow trade Bolles for peters straight up- we would still be seeing the same number of penalties. And looking at most of the prominent LTs in the game they all are within 2 to 3 penalties of Bolles. So 0.18 penalties per game less than bolles.


Say he has bad technique, poor footwork, lazy, whatever. But the penalties aspect, it is for naught.

*knot

I wonder if the penalties aren't a little different in context - like mostly Bolles holds because he's beat in coverage, whereas Peters -this is just hypothetical- holds more on running plays, or something else.

Originally Posted by King87

I wonder if the penalties aren't a little different in context - like mostly Bolles holds because he's beat in coverage, whereas Peters -this is just hypothetical- holds more on running plays, or something else.

Does context matter here? I mean, 10 yards is a drive killer regardless of context.

Originally Posted by slim

Does context matter here? I mean, 10 yards is a drive killer regardless of context.

I don't know if it does or doesn't. I'd rather have a LT who -if they have to hold- holds on running plays than pass protection, though. I'm just thinking out loud, Slim.

Lock sprained thumb - will keep him out into the regular season per Klis

Originally Posted by King87

I don't know if it does or doesn't. I'd rather have a LT who -if they have to hold- holds on running plays than pass protection, though. I'm just thinking out loud, Slim.

I hear ya. Overall I was encouraged by what I saw last night, the OL being the one exception.

Originally Posted by slim

Does context matter here? I mean, 10 yards is a drive killer regardless of context.

Consider the 40 yard completion and 10 yard penalty = half a football field so yes context matters.

Originally Posted by BroncoTech

Consider the 40 yard completion and 10 yard penalty = half a football field so yes context matters.

Yeah, but not all passes are 40 yard completions and not all runs are 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

I get it. You can't have penalties on big plays, but that's not really the discussion we are having. At least I don't think it is.