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    ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- As he watched his son coach against the team he guided for 14 seasons Saturday, former Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan revealed he was indeed poised to return as the team's coach before the 2018 season, but that "it didn't work out."

    The fact that Broncos president of football operations/general manager John Elway had extensive discussions with Shanahan after the Broncos had finished 5-11 in Vance Joseph's first season as coach has been well known. But Saturday, as Shanahan watched his son Kyle lead the San Francisco 49ers in joint practices against the franchise he led to two Super Bowl wins, Mike Shanahan spoke openly about his near return to the sideline.

    "I was close, I was close,'' Shanahan said. "One thing that has to happen is you all have to be on the same page. One thing you've got to make sure of when you are a head football coach that the owner, the GM, the quarterback are all on the same page. And if it doesn't happen the chances of you winning the Super Bowl aren't very good. ... I had a great conversation with John as everybody knows, it didn't work out, sometimes it works out for the right reasons.''
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    I have a feeling Ellis messed this up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol) View Post
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    I have a feeling Ellis messed this up
    I wonder why. I know about the 'process' argument that Ellis allegedly made, but that only speaks to an underlying reluctance. I have mixed thoughts on the idea of Shanny Sr. returning, but one thing is for sure, his results with the Broncos speak for themselves.

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    At first I thought it said M Night Shanahan and I was like hmmmm a Denver based thriller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol) View Post
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    I have a feeling Ellis messed this up
    Carol in all seriousness I think bringing him back would have been a mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    I wonder why. I know about the 'process' argument that Ellis allegedly made, but that only speaks to an underlying reluctance. I have mixed thoughts on the idea of Shanny Sr. returning, but one thing is for sure, his results with the Broncos speak for themselves.
    Firing a head coach after one season is something really bad franchises do. And after Shanahan bombed in Washington, and had a rough ending here, I would have been really skeptical. With that being said, there were talks that Shanahan might have convinced Cousins to come with him. I know Cousins still gets a bad rap via his playoff record and what not, but we know Shanahan knows QB's, and preferred Cousins over RG3. There would have been potential for great success here.

    TL;DR - it would have been really interesting, but meh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeefStew25 View Post
    Carol in all seriousness I think bringing him back would have been a mistake.
    I do, too, Carol. Even though he owned Belichick and knew how to win championships, it would have felt off to me.

    So how much of SB 50 was Ellis? Let's be honest, and I'm not sure the answer.

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    You broke up for a reason. Yeah the sex was awesome.

    Shanny says yeah you handle the draft.

    Righhttttt. He’s type A as they come.

    And goddam he was a brutal GM. Worse than McD.

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    Missed opportunity. Could have had us on track with a real franchise QB. How some of you can’t see that is beyond me. Ellis can screw himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbolt View Post
    Missed opportunity. Could have had us on track with a real franchise QB. How some of you can’t see that is beyond me. Ellis can screw himself.
    Ok I’ll bite.

    You pay a guy new to you a shit load guaranteed without the benefit of at least getting his rookie deal also.

    Kiss our top 5-8 defense goodbye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeefStew25 View Post
    Ok I’ll bite.

    You pay a guy new to you a shit load guaranteed without the benefit of at least getting his rookie deal also.

    Kiss our top 5-8 defense goodbye.
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    I wish he would come back in some capacity.
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    Ellis was why Shanahan left in the first place. Ellis supposedly convinced Pat Bowlen to fire him.

    On the radio they were reporting that Shanahan told Elway that there was no way Ellis would agree to bring him back, but Elway was so eager to explore discussions with Shanahan that he insisted talks.

    They had the talks and Elway and Shanahan came to agreement. I would have thought like Shanahan that Ellis would never agree; normally companies never re-hire the same guy you fired. It's like saying "Oops! Turns out we shouldn't have fired you in the first place!"

    No organization likes to admit publicly that they screwed up by firing Shanny and hiring Hurricane McDaniels to come in, destroy the Broncos franchise and eat their children.

    Given the initial bad blood when the Broncos fired Shanahan he hasn't been back around here for years (this year he's been to training camp and Shanny and the Broncos are now close (Elway and Fangio love him).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cugel View Post
    Ellis was why Shanahan left in the first place. Ellis supposedly convinced Pat Bowlen to fire him.

    On the radio they were reporting that Shanahan told Elway that there was no way Ellis would agree to bring him back, but Elway was so eager to explore discussions with Shanahan that he insisted talks.

    They had the talks and Elway and Shanahan came to agreement. I would have thought like Shanahan that Ellis would never agree; normally companies never re-hire the same guy you fired. It's like saying "Oops! Turns out we shouldn't have fired you in the first place!"

    No organization likes to admit publicly that they screwed up by firing Shanny and hiring Hurricane McDaniels to come in, destroy the Broncos franchise and eat their children.

    Given the initial bad blood when the Broncos fired Shanahan he hasn't been back around here for years (this year he's been to training camp and Shanny and the Broncos are now close (Elway and Fangio love him).
    Bro. Shanny didn't leave he was fired. And lets not forget, i know it was 10 years ago but the Team got stagnant. 08 Broncos Defense was one of the worst we ever saw, I thought 94 Broncos D was bad. To lose those last 3 games when they had everything locked in was a major failure. McD may have been the wrong hire but Shanny at the time had to go. The Detroit blowout home loss in 07 was an eye opener for me. I knew his time in Denver was over. Its a shame how it ended.
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    Shanny was a great coach, but a horrible GM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy! View Post
    Shanny was a great coach, but a horrible GM.
    He wasn’t as bad as GM as many make him out to be, he made mistakes but so does Belicheat.
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