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    Default Stones vs. Beatles

    I figure we can settle this issue for good and move on with our lives.

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    Yes.

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    Here's an idea--what if we took the top 10 songs of each--either objectively or subjectively--and ranked them from 1 to 20? Like that guy did with the 2018 and 2019 QB prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Here's an idea--what if we took the top 10 songs of each--either objectively or subjectively--and ranked them from 1 to 20? Like that guy did with the 2018 and 2019 QB prospects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    Here's an idea--what if we took the top 10 songs of each--either objectively or subjectively--and ranked them from 1 to 20? Like that guy did with the 2018 and 2019 QB prospects.
    First, there’s is zero objectivity to this. The only objective item that could be discussed when comparing the bands would be chart success, but we all know how that would end and people resoundingly don’t like the Beatles at this website, so let’s not go there.

    Second, these are the two greatest rock bands of all time (obviously my opinion, but know I’m going to laugh when anyone tries to tell me some obscure, non chart success type of music is better in terms of “GOAT” talk...that band simply isn’t in the conversation), so I’m not advocating specifically one or the other as I’ll never stop listening to either.
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    Their music was very different, so it's hard to compare and rate. Love them both though.

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    Off the top, Top 10s, something tells me no one is going to agree with this either.

    Beatles
    1. Hey Jude
    2. Let It Be
    3. Long and Winding Road
    4. Help
    5. Come Together
    6. Daytripper
    7. Blackbird
    8. Can’t Buy Me Love
    9. Two Of Us
    10. While My Guitar Gently Weeps

    Stones:
    1. Gimme Shelter
    2. Brown Sugar
    3. Paint It Black
    4. Satisfaction
    5. Under My Thumb
    6. Sympathy for the Devil
    7. You Can’t Always Get What You Want
    8. Wild Horses
    9. Time Is On My Side
    10. Start Me Up

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    For the Stones to *still* be going strong is based on longevity alone.
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    This is like racing a Volkswagen beetle (Ha) with flowers and a walrus painted on it against a black 69 Camero that shoots flames from its tail pipes and sounds like a demon. Unless it's a gas mileage competition it's not even close.
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    Harder than I thought. A lot of Beatles stuff I've heard so much more and have discarded through familiarity. It's hard to remember what it was like when I was captured by a song like "Here Comes the Sun" and listened with excitement. Conversely, rockers like Jumpin Jack Flash still pack a decent punch even though I listened to it just as much. Maybe the Stones good stuff just holds up better?

    Here's a purely subjective list, many of my favorites aren't as popular. My criteria was these are the ten songs from each I get to put into my desert island jukebox, but I get a 50% rebate on overplay familiarity (I've heard some of these songs so damned much I might balk at including them).

    My favorite Stones songs (today):

    Gimme Shelter
    Jumpin Jack Flash
    Midnight Rambler
    Rocks Off
    Honky Tonk Women
    Let's Spend the Night Together
    Street Fighting Man
    Paint It Black
    Tumblin Dice
    Sympathy for the Devil


    Favorite Beatles songs (today):
    Rain
    A Day in the Life
    Strawberry Fields Forever
    And Your Bird Can Sing
    In My Life
    Something
    Paperback Writer
    Help
    Dig a Pony
    Hey Jude

    (Come) Together:

    Gimme Shelter
    Rain
    A Day in the Life
    Strawberry Fields Forever
    Jumpin Jack Flash
    And Your Bird Can Sing
    Midnight Rambler
    Rocks Off
    Honky Tonk Women
    Let's Spend the Night Together
    In My Life
    Something
    Street Fighting Man
    Paint It Black
    Tumblin Dice
    Paperback Writer
    Help
    Dig a Pony
    Sympathy for the Devil
    Hey Jude

    If #1 = 20 points and #20 = 1 point, the tally would be Stones: 109, Beatles: 101

    Seems to support Abe's top heavy theory that the Stones best stuff is better. Of course, that scoring is too arbitrary. Better would be absolute scores for each song.

    The question is, would I rather listen to #11 from each list? That would have been She's A Rainbow vs. Long and Winding Road... I have a feeling that I'd rather listen to the Beatles #21 song vs. the Stones #21 song. But maybe not. Definitely at #41 I'd prefer the Beatles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoJoe View Post
    Their music was very different, so it's hard to compare and rate. Love them both though.
    It really is. It became apparent when I tried making a list and I got to thinking...this is oil and water. Beatles hit me in a kind of introverted intimate way, Stones speak more to my asskicker ethos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    First, there’s is zero objectivity to this. The only objective item that could be discussed when comparing the bands would be chart success, but we all know how that would end and people resoundingly don’t like the Beatles at this website, so let’s not go there.

    Second, these are the two greatest rock bands of all time (obviously my opinion, but know I’m going to laugh when anyone tries to tell me some obscure, non chart success type of music is better in terms of “GOAT” talk...that band simply isn’t in the conversation), so I’m not advocating specifically one or the other as I’ll never stop listening to either.
    Yeah, album sales might be only objective measure, and Beatles are #1 vs. Stones #13. Of course, Garth Brooks is #2, so grain of salt and all. I like Garth Brooks.

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    beatles all day, err day. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    beatles all day, err day. . .
    Normally I'd reflexively high five this, but this is a moment of pause for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazam! View Post
    For the Stones to *still* be going strong is based on longevity alone.
    Didn't they stop going strong with the release of Start Me Up?

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