Thread: Broncos sign CB Bryce Callahan

Originally Posted by kenoy28

Not sure--I think as it stands, we are going to get shredded up the middle by running backs and tight ends. We have a hole at safety, and a massive hole at Inside Linebacker.

I'm holding off on saying we have a hole at safety. I think Cravens and Carter have the kind of skill set that could work really well in a Fangio defense. Especially if they allow Simmons to actually play his position. A lot is going to depend on their desire and health, but if they are able...I think that spot may actually be a strength. Especially of Yiadom progresses and Jackson can slide to safety in certain packages.

But, I will agree on ILB. I like Jewell, but we need one of the Devin's at #10 to solidify that spot. I'm happy with either one.

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

I'm holding off on saying we have a hole at safety. I think Cravens and Carter have the kind of skill set that could work really well in a Fangio defense. Especially if they allow Simmons to actually play his position. A lot is going to depend on their desire and health, but if they are able...I think that spot may actually be a strength. Especially of Yiadom progresses and Jackson can slide to safety in certain packages.

But, I will agree on ILB. I like Jewell, but we need one of the Devin's at #10 to solidify that spot. I'm happy with either one.

I was listening Mason about four or five days ago and talking Bush and White in his view there isn't a big difference between the two. He said White is a little taller and a little faster but other than that the differences are negligible. One person on said White is much better coverage if that is accurate then I would take White first but I wouldn't get in a huff about taking Bush.

I just read a little story and said that White was little faster as well as being a little taller.

Didn't Cravens get benched despite being healthy at the end of last season? Are we actually expecting anything out of him at this point?

Originally Posted by Buff

Didn't Cravens get benched despite being healthy at the end of last season? Are we actually expecting anything out of him at this point?

Do you remember the coaching staff that benched him? That said, I don't hold any expectations, but I do know his skill set and versatility matches up with what Fangio likes to do.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

I was listening Mason about four or five days ago and talking Bush and White in his view there isn't a big difference between the two. He said White is a little taller and a little faster but other than that the differences are negligible. One person on said White is much better coverage if that is accurate then I would take White first but I wouldn't get in a huff about taking Bush.

I just read a little story and said that White was little faster as well as being a little taller.

White ran a 4.42 compared to the 4.43 that Bush ran. If we want to call that "faster"...OK. Add White is 6'0" compared to Bush at 5'11", but...Bush negates that with a higher vertical. Beyond that, their arms and hands are pretty much the same size. In fact...almost all of their combine numbers are exactly the same.

I don't think there is a huge difference between the two at all. If White is Plan A1, then Bush is just fine being Plan A2. My opinion.

functional strength is the clear difference. Bush has more trouble getting off blocks and moving through the messes. White has shown no such weakness.

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

White ran a 4.42 compared to the 4.43 that Bush ran. If we want to call that "faster"...OK. Add White is 6'0" compared to Bush at 5'11", but...Bush negates that with a higher vertical. Beyond that, their arms and hands are pretty much the same size. In fact...almost all of their combine numbers are exactly the same.

I don't think there is a huge difference between the two at all. If White is Plan A1, then Bush is just fine being Plan A2. My opinion.

That sounds good to me.

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

functional strength is the clear difference. Bush has more trouble getting off blocks and moving through the messes. White has shown no such weakness.

It seem White struggles at least to some degree with shedding blocks according to some clips I have seen and things I have read.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

It seem White struggles at least to some degree with shedding blocks according to some clips I have seen and things I have read.

A few outlets have listed that as the main difference between the 2.

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

A few outlets have listed that as the main difference between the 2.

I'm not one to argue with "experts", but I think shedding blocks is something that ANY ILB can have issues with. My opinion, both of them have their moments when they have issues...but for different reasons. I'll call it a wash

I agree with all of this coach and I've been saying it since prior to the combine. Bush's performance at the combine only solidified that for me and he also looked a little bit better and positional drills to me. I would say white is slightly better in pass coverage and Bush is definitely better blitzing.

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

I'm holding off on saying we have a hole at safety. I think Cravens and Carter have the kind of skill set that could work really well in a Fangio defense. Especially if they allow Simmons to actually play his position. A lot is going to depend on their desire and health, but if they are able...I think that spot may actually be a strength. Especially of Yiadom progresses and Jackson can slide to safety in certain packages.

But, I will agree on ILB. I like Jewell, but we need one of the Devin's at #10 to solidify that spot. I'm happy with either one.

I'd agree 100%. That is right now the #1 need on the team, other than an elite pass-catching TE, and I'm not sure there's a value pick at TE at #10. ILB would be a great catch, but both Devins may be gone by #10, so they have to look at DL and OT too.

If neither Devin is there, they should consider trading back a bit and adding draft picks. They need a developmental Qb somewhere in rounds 2-7 as well.

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

I'm holding off on saying we have a hole at safety. I think Cravens and Carter have the kind of skill set that could work really well in a Fangio defense. Especially if they allow Simmons to actually play his position. A lot is going to depend on their desire and health, but if they are able...I think that spot may actually be a strength. Especially of Yiadom progresses and Jackson can slide to safety in certain packages.

But, I will agree on ILB. I like Jewell, but we need one of the Devin's at #10 to solidify that spot. I'm happy with either one.

Cravens is a better fit at ILB than Jewell, imo, Jewell is not the athlete that Woods needed, much less Fangio.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Cravens is a better fit at ILB than Jewell, imo, Jewell is not the athlete that Woods needed, much less Fangio.

I'll take a an unathletic guy with an impeccable work ethic and a history of production like Jewell over a super athletic guy who is a head case with no history of production like Cravens.

Originally Posted by Buff

I'll take a an unathletic guy with an impeccable work ethic and a history of production like Jewell over a super athletic guy who is a head case with no history of production like Cravens.

Jewell has a history of production?