Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 ... LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 72

Thread: Legendary Quarterback John Elway Can’t Figure Out Quarterbacks

  1. #16
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Italy
    Adopted Bronco:
    DT you will be missed
    Posts
    13,092

    Default

    I'm pretty much convinced Elway believes he has his next best version of a FA Peyton manning in Flacco. View it however you like good or bad, but that's where I think we stand.
    Denver's 2024 George Paton Draft/FA plan

    Draft
    RD1- TE Brock Bowers, GA
    RD3- QB Spencer Rattler, SC
    RD4- CB Josh Newton, TCU
    RD5- S Reggie Pearson, OK
    RD5- C Michael Jurgens, Wake Forest
    RD6- K Jonah Dalmas, Boise St

    FA
    1. With what money

  2. #17
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    The Rock of Eternity
    Adopted Bronco:
    Drew Lock
    Posts
    16,031

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    I'm pretty much convinced Elway believes he has his next best version of a FA Peyton manning in Flacco. View it however you like good or bad, but that's where I think we stand.
    A playoff winning veteran with Super experience available in FA who can throw downfield. Its very similar
    "I may not be a mathematician, but I can count to a million." - Shannon Sharpe

  3. #18
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Sharon, PA
    Adopted Bronco:
    Malik Jackson
    Posts
    13,406

    Default

    Umm...no

  4. The Following User High Fived SmilinAssasSin27 For This Post:


  5. #19
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Anderson, TX
    Adopted Bronco:
    Demaryius Thomas
    Posts
    36,443

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    I'm pretty much convinced Elway believes he has his next best version of a FA Peyton manning in Flacco. View it however you like good or bad, but that's where I think we stand.
    I don't think so El. If Elway decides to rework Flacco's contract giving him guaranteed money and extension then I could agree with you.

  6. #20
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    The Rock of Eternity
    Adopted Bronco:
    Drew Lock
    Posts
    16,031

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by TXBRONC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    I'm pretty much convinced Elway believes he has his next best version of a FA Peyton manning in Flacco. View it however you like good or bad, but that's where I think we stand.
    I don't think so El. If Elway decides to rework Flacco's contract giving him guaranteed money and extension then I could agree with you.
    Maybe after Denver returns to contention in 2019
    "I may not be a mathematician, but I can count to a million." - Shannon Sharpe

  7. The Following User High Fived Shazam! For This Post:


  8. #21
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Anderson, TX
    Adopted Bronco:
    Demaryius Thomas
    Posts
    36,443

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Shazam! View Post
    Maybe after Denver returns to contention in 2019
    Maybe but I doubt it even if Denver does return to contention. I would support it for 35 year old quarterback who doesn't resume of a Peyton Manning. I think he's a much better option as transitional quarterback than Keenum but I don't see where it is like Denver will need him past the age of 37.
    Last edited by TXBRONC; 03-19-2019 at 07:56 AM.

  9. #22
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Italy
    Adopted Bronco:
    DT you will be missed
    Posts
    13,092

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by TXBRONC View Post
    I don't think so El. If Elway decides to rework Flacco's contract giving him guaranteed money and extension then I could agree with you.
    Don't worry as soon as they see Flacco throw the deep ball in OTA's in shorts he will have a extension prior to the season....I'm convinced Elway only believes he can win from now on with a Veteran FA QB....
    Denver's 2024 George Paton Draft/FA plan

    Draft
    RD1- TE Brock Bowers, GA
    RD3- QB Spencer Rattler, SC
    RD4- CB Josh Newton, TCU
    RD5- S Reggie Pearson, OK
    RD5- C Michael Jurgens, Wake Forest
    RD6- K Jonah Dalmas, Boise St

    FA
    1. With what money

  10. #23

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Shazam! View Post
    A playoff winning veteran with Super experience available in FA who can throw downfield. Its very similar
    Last year Keenum had a higher yards per attempted pass number. Not saying anything other than that. I can't find the article but I also read that Flacco attempted a whole bunch of long passes but connected less than Keenum.

    There is that.

  11. The Following User High Fived Ground Control For This Post:


  12. #24

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    Don't worry as soon as they see Flacco throw the deep ball in OTA's in shorts he will have a extension prior to the season....I'm convinced Elway only believes he can win from now on with a Veteran FA QB....
    Please see the above regarding how Keenum connected on more deep passes than Flacco last year. Stats suck because they are math. Not debatable.

    I've been reading Baltimore sports articles lately and if you do, you would see how silly it is to assume Flacco owns the deep ball or spreads the field. It's actually kind of crazy how much the Denver media hypes this but has no clue. So we have no clue. To be clear: Flacco reeeeeaaaaaally sucked at deep ball completions last year. The fact that Keenum was better than him is not a good thing. Of course, his Oline sucked but if we are to say that Flacco can spread the defense effectively.....well, we really shouldn't say that actually.

  13. #25
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    The Rock of Eternity
    Adopted Bronco:
    Drew Lock
    Posts
    16,031

    Default

    How have Baltimore WRs been recently?
    "I may not be a mathematician, but I can count to a million." - Shannon Sharpe

  14. The Following User High Fived Shazam! For This Post:


  15. #26
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Anderson, TX
    Adopted Bronco:
    Demaryius Thomas
    Posts
    36,443

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    Don't worry as soon as they see Flacco throw the deep ball in OTA's in shorts he will have a extension prior to the season....I'm convinced Elway only believes he can win from now on with a Veteran FA QB....
    We'll see. Elway has drafted six quarterbacks two of which were taken in the first two rounds. There is nothing in what Elway would has done that leads to think he will only be looking to veteran quarterbacks.

  16. The Following User High Fived TXBRONC For This Post:


  17. #27
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Colorado
    Adopted Bronco:
    Justin Simmons
    Posts
    5,564

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ground Control View Post
    Please see the above regarding how Keenum connected on more deep passes than Flacco last year. Stats suck because they are math. Not debatable.

    I've been reading Baltimore sports articles lately and if you do, you would see how silly it is to assume Flacco owns the deep ball or spreads the field. It's actually kind of crazy how much the Denver media hypes this but has no clue. So we have no clue. To be clear: Flacco reeeeeaaaaaally sucked at deep ball completions last year. The fact that Keenum was better than him is not a good thing. Of course, his Oline sucked but if we are to say that Flacco can spread the defense effectively.....well, we really shouldn't say that actually.
    You're misreading him entirely. Elevation is not a Joe Flacco fan at all.

  18. #28
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Italy
    Adopted Bronco:
    DT you will be missed
    Posts
    13,092

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsteve01 View Post
    You're misreading him entirely. Elevation is not a Joe Flacco fan at all.

    Thanks for the back-up, I didn't feel like responding to him....I have made it pretty clear to everyone I think....where I stand with regards to flacco lol.....
    Denver's 2024 George Paton Draft/FA plan

    Draft
    RD1- TE Brock Bowers, GA
    RD3- QB Spencer Rattler, SC
    RD4- CB Josh Newton, TCU
    RD5- S Reggie Pearson, OK
    RD5- C Michael Jurgens, Wake Forest
    RD6- K Jonah Dalmas, Boise St

    FA
    1. With what money

  19. #29

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    I'm pretty much convinced Elway believes he has his next best version of a FA Peyton manning in Flacco. View it however you like good or bad, but that's where I think we stand.
    There's zero doubt that you are correct. Elway kept looking for a younger version of himself to draft. Only there are no Elways in the draft, and if there were that player would be the consensus #1 pick just as Elway was. And there would be zero chance Denver would get him.

    Elway scouted Andrew Luck, but of course the Colts had the #1 pick and were uninterested in trading. He did move up in the first round to draft Paxton Lynch - who had all the physical tools to be a great QB, but was a goof-ball pirate, and not an NFL QB.

    Elway reportedly like Sam Darnold but was unwilling to move up in the draft to get him because of the cost.

    The Jets gave up the 6th pick of the draft, plus 2 second rounders in 2018, plus a second round pick in 2019 to move up 3 spots. To beat that offer Denver would have had to surrender two #1s (2018 and 2019) and a #2 in 2018 (Denver did not have 2 second rounders in 2018).

    No Bradley Chubb, no Courtland Sutton, and no #10 pick in this year's draft. The depth on this roster would be a lot worse than it is, but they would have a prospective Qb.

    Since he didn't do it, he decided to get a veteran who was ready to "win now." Elway is always in win-now mode, which is great if you're a player. It's not as great in a GM who must plan for the future. I don't think this team is strong enough to win any SBs with Joe Flacco at this stage of his career. He had one miracle season, and that's it. And that was a long ass time ago.

  20. The Following User High Fived Cugel For This Post:


  21. #30
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    6-3/215
    Adopted Bronco:
    Mighty Quinn
    Posts
    36,769

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ground Control View Post
    Last year Keenum had a higher yards per attempted pass number. Not saying anything other than that. I can't find the article but I also read that Flacco attempted a whole bunch of long passes but connected less than Keenum.

    There is that.
    Which long passes, exactly? And against what teams? What kind of coverages? Down and distance?
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Sign Garbage Minshew.

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

Go
Shop AFC Champions and Super Bowl gear at the official online Pro Shop of the Denver Broncos!

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 8
    Last Post: 06-28-2010, 11:27 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
status.broncosforums.com - BroncosForums status updates
Partner with the USA Today Sports Media Group