Thread: Keenum ignoring draft talk, looks forward to improving under Fangio

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DENVER — As April’s 2019 NFL Draft approaches, mock drafts will be debated and rumors around the quarterback position will continue to grow.

Just don’t expect Case Keenum to know that — or to care.

"When's the draft?” Keenum asked with a smile after attending Wednesday’s Colorado House of Representatives Business Committee hearing. “Sorry, I haven't looked at any draft boards yet. I know how much that changes and how that goes. My job is to get healthy and to get ready for this year. I'm not going to be paying too much attention to that right now especially."

After a season in which Keenum threw for 3,890 yards, 18 touchdowns and 15 interceptions and completed 62.3 percent of his passes, he said he’s more focused on the advice he’s gotten from his coaches on how to improve.

“It's not something that's affecting me and my preparation and how I'm ready to go as a football player and what my job is,” Keenum said. “It's not affecting my job. For me, I take more of what my coaches say and the meetings that we've had. I had a great meeting with John [Elway] at the end of the year and we've all got to be better. That's hands down what it comes down to. I was mad just like every other Broncos fan watching all these playoff games and us sitting at home. I feel the same way that we've all got to be better."

Originally Posted by Northman

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I'm not surprise, eventually he was going to be asked and this is the kind of answer I would expect.

One thing the Keenum detractors can't say about the guy is he's a clubhouse cancer. He says the right things. He's not a clubhouse Prima Donna like Roethlisberger has become, pointing fingers at everyone but himself. Keenum understands his situation and will try to be better but if it means mentoring a top draft pick to take his job, he'll swallow his pride and do it while waiting for another chance elsewhere. He's already gotten more out of his career than anyone could have possibly guessed.

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

One thing the Keenum detractors can't say about the guy is he's a clubhouse cancer. He says the right things. He's not a clubhouse Prima Donna like Roethlisberger has become, pointing fingers at everyone but himself. Keenum understands his situation and will try to be better but if it means mentoring a top draft pick to take his job, he'll swallow his pride and do it while waiting for another chance elsewhere. He's already gotten more out of his career than anyone could have possibly guessed.

the only thing i will say in defense of Ben is he's lead his team to 3 SB's and won 2. Manning did the same thing when throwing his Oline under the bus, when you have the kind of success those guys have had there is leeway given for that. While Keenum isnt a guy (that i know of) to throw his teammates under the bus he hasnt really done enough to even justify it if he did. Keenum throwing anyone under the bus would be far more foolish since his resume isnt that impressive to begin with.

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

One thing the Keenum detractors can't say about the guy is he's a clubhouse cancer. He says the right things. He's not a clubhouse Prima Donna like Roethlisberger has become, pointing fingers at everyone but himself. Keenum understands his situation and will try to be better but if it means mentoring a top draft pick to take his job, he'll swallow his pride and do it while waiting for another chance elsewhere. He's already gotten more out of his career than anyone could have possibly guessed.

Agreed. He's no cancer, he works hard but he's not the kind of quarterback that you want starting 16 games for you. I've never understood the literal hatred he gets just because he's not a great player. Imo it's a bit childish. I don't know how much better a quarterback who will 31 years old next season can get. That aside he's seems to be good guy to have around. If Denver does draft quarterback ( which fully expect they will). He seems like the the kind of guy who will try to help young players, unlike someone like Kyle Orton who was always jealous of younger players who could possibly take his job.

I for one hope Case is the starter for 2019 and that scags does a far better job than Musgrave at scheming to Cases strengths. I don't see a viable and cost effective option currently in free agency and don't think Haskins will be there at 10. No other QB coming out in the draft this year is worth that 10 pick in my opinion.

Originally Posted by broncofaninfla

I for one hope Case is the starter for 2019 and that scags does a far better job than Musgrave at scheming to Cases strengths. I don't see a viable and cost effective option currently in free agency and don't think Haskins will be there at 10. No other QB coming out in the draft this year is worth that 10 pick in my opinion.

While I personally don't think Keenum is the kind of guy want starting 16 games, until we see what happens in the draft he's the starter going into the season.

Originally Posted by Northman

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I mean it's the right answer. Doesn't mean a lot, he's gonna likely end up replaced no matter what answers he gives.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

I mean it's the right answer. Doesn't mean a lot, he's gonna likely end up replaced no matter what answers he gives.

I expect that Denver is going to draft a quarterback, but if they don't pick one until the 3rd round, I think his chance to keep the job go up exponentially.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

I expect that Denver is going to draft a quarterback, but if they don't pick one until the 3rd round, I think his chance to keep the job go up exponentially.

I think we're going to also bring in other QB's from FA/Trade on top of drafting a QB. I think Keenum's days are pretty numbered. Anytime John Elway says something like "Keenum is our starting QB.....for now" he's planning his demise as our starter.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

I think we're going to also bring in other QB's from FA/Trade on top of drafting a QB. I think Keenum's days are pretty numbered. Anytime John Elway says something like "Keenum is our starting QB.....for now" he's planning his demise as our starter.

I didn't mention it, I agree there will be there will other quarterbacks on the besides one that is drafted and Keenum. Denver has generally carried three. Elway hasn't said that just yet that I'm aware of, but if or when does it's the kiss of death. I think much would have to do with where they draft a quarterback.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

I didn't mention it, I agree there will be there will other quarterbacks on the besides one that is drafted and Keenum. Denver has generally carried three. Elway hasn't said that just yet that I'm aware of, but if or when does it's the kiss of death. I think much would have to do with where they draft a quarterback.

Here's the exact wording he used.

https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-bro...now-127164463/

“I’m going to go and shake some trees out there for the quarterback and see if one falls out (laughs)," Elway responded Monday in his season-ending, post-Vance Joseph press conference. "Case [Keenum] is our quarterback right now and we’ve got to do a better job of supporting him too. Case did a nice job this year. Obviously, he’ll tell you the same thing, he could’ve played better, but we’re always looking for that guy. We’ll continue to work for him and go from there. As far as Mike being a candidate, not at this point in time. I’ve got a great deal of respect for Mike and a great relationship with Mike, so we’ll just see how things go.”

It's not the exact same quote as he used to say "Tebow is our QB for now" but it's pretty lukewarm as endorsements go. When Elway starts using that kind of middle of the road language like that, it normally doesn't bode well for the person he's talking about.

Here's another that's even more direct calling him a "short term fix".
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/j...019-nfl-draft/

Elway, meanwhile, offered more specificity about Keenum's future.

"[W]e've got to -- Case is probably a short-term fix -- find the long-term guy for us," Elway told Peter King of "Football Morning in America." "When we do find that guy, we've got to have the continuity on the offensive side to where we can train him and develop him and get him there. This is our fourth offense in probably three or four years. Quarterbacks need to be developed. You don't find one ready-made. We got to have a solid system in place for when we do go after whatever guy it may be, a young guy or a trade or whatnot."

That's a lot of writing on the wall that tells me Elway would prefer we go into the season without Case, but we fully intend on replacing him ASAP.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

Here's the exact wording he used.

https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-bro...now-127164463/



It's not the exact same quote as he used to say "Tebow is our QB for now" but it's pretty lukewarm as endorsements go. When Elway starts using that kind of middle of the road language like that, it normally doesn't bode well for the person he's talking about.

Here's another that's even more direct calling him a "short term fix.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/j...019-nfl-draft/

Neither one of those is same thing as saying ____ is our quarterback right now, which has been the kiss of death for other quarterbacks. The second quote is Elway saying even though Keenum was the starter he was never seen as a long term fix. That one doesn't he won't be here for this season. Again, at this point, much depends who he lands as veteran quarterback and where exactly they draft another quarterback.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

While I personally don't think Keenum is the kind of guy want starting 16 games, until we see what happens in the draft he's starter going into the season.

Vic the new HC and Elway both said something that does have me a little uneasy. They both mentioned that they like the idea of the young (new drafted QB) to sit and learn for a bit. We saw that with Brock (although peyton was shattering records so its not like he was going to play anyway) but if so, (which would suck balls btw) then even if we land a Lock, Haskins, Jones, etc....I think you may still be right that case is starting for us and (gulp) even for the entire year until the chants get too big for the rookie!

I could fully see a scenario where we have Lock and Case and Case starts until week 12 or something. Then Lock gets in to get his feet wet.
I would not like that but I can see it happening from what John and Vic both said.

Originally Posted by underrated29

Vic the new HC and Elway both said something that does have me a little uneasy. They both mentioned that they like the idea of the young (new drafted QB) to sit and learn for a bit. We saw that with Brock (although peyton was shattering records so its not like he was going to play anyway) but if so, (which would suck balls btw) then even if we land a Lock, Haskins, Jones, etc....I think you may still be right that case is starting for us and (gulp) even for the entire year until the chants get too big for the rookie!

I could fully see a scenario where we have Lock and Case and Case starts until week 12 or something. Then Lock gets in to get his feet wet.
I would not like that but I can see it happening from what John and Vic both said.

Well yes there is a huge difference between sitting behind a elite quarterback and a journeyman. Assuming Lock is the guy I don't see how him by week 12 would necessarily a bad thing. If Denver is in the playoff hunt I doubt that would happen. If they're not I don't know if that would a bad thing. It will depend on how the season is going.