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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    For the most part a backup QB should be seen and not heard.

    The biggest reason Tebow is out of the league is that 6 years or so after the guy hasn't played a single snap people are still talking about a guy with a career 47.9 completion percentage. He has backup talent and he is a hell of a guy but the circus that follows him makes it impossible for a team to keep him on the roster and avoid the distractions.
    This is false. The "circus" has nothing to do with Tebow being out of the league.

    Teams run certain offenses, and have a limited amount of practice time to get guys meaningful reps. Tebow's 47.9 completion percentage prevents him from running as a #2 QB, because how is a guy like that going to help the 2s get better? How can he run a scout team either? Paxton Lynch's absence from the league last year, even on a practice squad, is evidence of this. QBs gotta be able to throw accurate balls to stay on a roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderArmour View Post
    This is false. The "circus" has nothing to do with Tebow being out of the league.

    Teams run certain offenses, and have a limited amount of practice time to get guys meaningful reps. Tebow's 47.9 completion percentage prevents him from running as a #2 QB, because how is a guy like that going to help the 2s get better? How can he run a scout team either? Paxton Lynch's absence from the league last year, even on a practice squad, is evidence of this. QBs gotta be able to throw accurate balls to stay on a roster.
    Agreed but how do you explain Jackson in Baltimore? The Ravens are literally handing over the reigns to a QB who has the same skill set as Tebow. It sounds as though they are going to scheme their offense to what he does do well but 2018 was proof that the kid throws the ball with the same limitations and skill set as Tebow. Time will tell if it'll work but for now neither would succeed in an conventional NFL offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderArmour View Post
    This is false. The "circus" has nothing to do with Tebow being out of the league.

    Teams run certain offenses, and have a limited amount of practice time to get guys meaningful reps. Tebow's 47.9 completion percentage prevents him from running as a #2 QB, because how is a guy like that going to help the 2s get better? How can he run a scout team either? Paxton Lynch's absence from the league last year, even on a practice squad, is evidence of this. QBs gotta be able to throw accurate balls to stay on a roster.
    It is not 100% related to the circus that follows him but you are kidding yourself if you think it doesn't factor.

    The circus that would surround Kap is the only reason he isn't a backup somewhere. It plays a part.

    Personally I think with the evolving NFL, having a backup that can play the RPO is the exact backup you would want, someone that can actually prepare your defense for the concepts.

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    Tebow sucked his way out of the league. Tebowites have never been able to admit this. He SUCKED for three different teams and they all cut him. Then some teams were willing to sign him as a TE but he refused. Then he tried baseball and commenting on SEC games after his career ended.

    End of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broncofaninfla View Post
    Agreed but how do you explain Jackson in Baltimore? The Ravens are literally handing over the reigns to a QB who has the same skill set as Tebow. It sounds as though they are going to scheme their offense to what he does do well but 2018 was proof that the kid throws the ball with the same limitations and skill set as Tebow. Time will tell if it'll work but for now neither would succeed in an conventional NFL offense.
    There are major skill-set differences between Tebow and Jackson. There are lots of guys that do what Jackson does, just not nearly as well. With Tebow? Besides maybe Taysom Hill, there's really nobody.

    Jackson's accuracy woes aren't as bad as Tebow's. The Ravens also drafted Jackson with the sole intention of developing him into their starting QB, and tailoring an offense around him. Unlike Tebow, who was a pounding QB, there actually are suitable backup QBs in the league for Lamar Jackson. RG3 and Tyrod Taylor could suit up for 8 games, and make something happen. There are any number of athletic option QBs that come out of college every year that make for late round "slide in for a game" starters for a Lamar Jackson. It's not completely out of the realm of reality to tailor your entire organizational direction around a QB like Jackson.

    Tebow, on the other hand, was one-of-a-kind as a football prospect. We're talking a bruising back that can throw the football. How many QBs in the NFL could you name that could honestly back Tebow up, without entirely changing the offense? Off the top of my head, you'd maybe back Tebow up with Taysom Hill? And I'm certainly not overstating the importance of backup QB here, because mobile QBs do get injured.

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    tebow out of the league, but hey joe fugging flaco is still in it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneFalco View Post
    tebow out of the league, but hey joe fugging flaco is still in it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    Seems pretty clear why Flacco is still in the League.


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    So Broncos to the superbowl? book it?

    Amazing how Flacco just changed the entire culture in one offseason. He is a SB champion after all.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneFalco View Post
    So Broncos to the superbowl? book it?

    Amazing how Flacco just changed the entire culture in one offseason. He is a SB champion after all.....
    That's not what North was getting at Shane.
    Last edited by TXBRONC; 02-13-2019 at 05:02 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneFalco View Post
    So Broncos to the superbowl? book it?

    Amazing how Flacco just changed the entire culture in one offseason. He is a SB champion after all.....
    Hell hath no fury as a bald man scorned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsteve01 View Post
    ... Tebow is similar to Kaepernick....
    Ya got that right, if not necessarily as you meant it: "As a person and a leader," Kapernick's the Anti-Tebow, the political athletes yin to Tebows yang. You're a FOOTBALL PLAYER; if you want to "lead" national policy get off the field and run for office (that's what Jack Kemp and Heath Shuler did.)
    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. óJaded

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneFalco View Post
    tebow out of the league, but hey joe fugging flaco is still in it!
    Flacco's won a Superbowl, when did Timmy boy do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneFalco View Post
    So Broncos to the superbowl? book it?

    Amazing how Flacco just changed the entire culture in one offseason. He is a SB champion after all.....
    Why must you always take anything said and just turn it into complete hyperbole? I don't think anyone realistically thinks we have a good shot at a Superbowl with Flacco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
    Ya got that right, if not necessarily as you meant it: "As a person and a leader," Kapernick's the Anti-Tebow, the political athletes yin to Tebows yang. You're a FOOTBALL PLAYER; if you want to "lead" national policy get off the field and run for office (that's what Jack Kemp and Heath Shuler did.)
    Jackie Robinson ran for office and made policy to allow for the integration of African-Americans into baseball. Koufax certainly did that same thing regarding pitching on holiday. And, thank god, the pre-game ceremonies are apolitical and have nothing to do with government or the country. Thank the lord herself that Ali was never political during his time as a boxer. There is certainly no history of minority athletes being political during their time of competition, and if there was nothing good could possibly come from it.

    Wait a minute...
    Sign Bryce Callahan. Sign C.J. Mosley.

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