Thread: NFL to consider making pass interference and other judgement calls reviewable, Elway says not likely to pass.

This makes perfect sense. So I doubt the NFL is interested in it.

Wont happen.

Next.

Originally Posted by Timmy!

Wont happen.

Next.

I hear the Patriots are posturing for male cheerleaders next year.

Vinovich needed to be fired a long time ago. It’s no shock he headed this embarrassing crew. How do they keep getting big games? I’d say that’s a deeper problem than needing replay for this. Referee accountability.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

This sounds nice in theory, but every ref makes bad calls. Football is extremely fast paced and it's basically impossible to get every call right in real time. That's why we have replay, to clean up the errors that are made. I agree there should be some sort of accountability for blatantly missing a call like in the saints game, but if you flat out suspended refs from calling big games for making a bad call, there would be no refs left to call big games.

The fact of the matter is, the refs that get to call these games are the ones who had the best performance over the course of the season. So if you remove those guys for missing a call, the ones who would come in to replace them would be worse.

I'm not worried about the holding call in the 2nd quarter type deal..you can simply fine the crew that called a bad game...The championship games was atrocious......I feel replay is just going to make it worse, but I could see making it part of the 2 challenges the coaches get, that's on them if they want to waste it, and keeps the game flow still moving....so I back you on that point.....

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

I'm not worried about the holding call in the 2nd quarter type deal..you can simply fine the crew that called a bad game...The championship games was atrocious......I feel replay is just going to make it worse, but I could see making it part of the 2 challenges the coaches get, that's on them if they want to waste it, and keeps the game flow still moving....so I back you on that point.....

Yeah I definitely don't think more stoppages need to be added to the game. I just think coaches should be able to use their 2-3 challenges on whatever they want. That seems like a reasonable solution to this.

Originally Posted by slim

I hear the Patriots are posturing for male cheerleaders next year.

Duh, Brady needs a job after he retires.

I don't really understand JFE's take on this. Who is suggesting replaying every PI or non-PI call? The toolbox is the same size, just standardizing the nut sizes.

Originally Posted by wayninja

I don't really understand JFE's take on this. Who is suggesting replaying every PI or non-PI call? The toolbox is the same size, just standardizing the nut sizes.

Yeah I also found that strange. Maybe he was just misunderstand the suggestion. Or maybe the reporter asked him the question in a weird way.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Vinovich needed to be fired a long time ago. It’s no shock he headed this embarrassing crew. How do they keep getting big games? I’d say that’s a deeper problem than needing replay for this. Referee accountability.

I think the problem (in this case) might stem from the "all-star" crews the NFL moved to in the playoffs.

During the season a crew works together through the entire 17 week season. They know how to communicate with each other. They know how to handle each other etc.

Then the playoffs roll around, and they pick and choose the best graded refs and throw them all together on new crews with guys they haven't worked with before.

I have a feeling that the reason NONE of the refs threw a flag on that obvious PI is because they weren't used to working with one another and one of the others from another area of the field didn't feel confident in upstaging the judge who was right there on top of it.

Maybe I'm totally off base, but I think it plays a factor. Take the best-graded CREWS to the playoffs. Don't mix and match the best-graded officials.

Originally Posted by NightTrainLayne

I think the problem (in this case) might stem from the "all-star" crews the NFL moved to in the playoffs.

During the season a crew works together through the entire 17 week season. They know how to communicate with each other. They know how to handle each other etc.

Then the playoffs roll around, and they pick and choose the best graded refs and throw them all together on new crews with guys they haven't worked with before.

I have a feeling that the reason NONE of the refs threw a flag on that obvious PI is because they weren't used to working with one another and one of the others from another area of the field didn't feel confident in upstaging the judge who was right there on top of it.

Maybe I'm totally off base, but I think it plays a factor. Take the best-graded CREWS to the playoffs. Don't mix and match the best-graded officials.

This idea is intriguing, but I think there's room for both things. Vinovich fired AND keeping crews together.

Originally Posted by NightTrainLayne

I think the problem (in this case) might stem from the "all-star" crews the NFL moved to in the playoffs.

During the season a crew works together through the entire 17 week season. They know how to communicate with each other. They know how to handle each other etc.

Then the playoffs roll around, and they pick and choose the best graded refs and throw them all together on new crews with guys they haven't worked with before.

I have a feeling that the reason NONE of the refs threw a flag on that obvious PI is because they weren't used to working with one another and one of the others from another area of the field didn't feel confident in upstaging the judge who was right there on top of it.

Maybe I'm totally off base, but I think it plays a factor. Take the best-graded CREWS to the playoffs. Don't mix and match the best-graded officials.

Good point and one I forgot about.

Yeah the all star crew sounds great in theory but it probably does make more sense to keep the same crews together. This would be a great thing for spike to chime in on.

I'm opposed to changing the rules. They review EVERY damn play as it is and the games drag on and on making it incredibly boring to watch. If you don't believe me tape the game and watch it later and fast forward through the commercials, stoppages, time-outs, officials reviews, booth reviews, reviews on every catch, reviews of every TD even the most obvious, etc., etc.

Compare the raw excitement of the actual game, without stoppages with the product they put on the field every week. No comparison.

You could call pass interference on almost any play. Most of the time it isn't called. Sometimes when it should be called, it isn't. I think replay and all the idiot rule complexities that come from replay (was it a catch? Was the receiver moving the ball when he hit the ground? Was his hand under the ball? Did the ball break the plane? Can we get another angle? )

I'm old and crotchety and I don't like all the delays as is. This rule change would lead to more challenges.

Plus: "You kids get off my lawn!"

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Yeah I also found that strange. Maybe he was just misunderstand the suggestion. Or maybe the reporter asked him the question in a weird way.

Probably this because when Wave first posted it that is what i thought as well.