Thread: Antonio Brown Rips Emmanuel Sanders, Bruce Arians on Twitter

Originally Posted by Cugel

That's what I would do if I were Belichick. Why not? They made a hero out of a total ZERO with Randy Moss. Moss wore out his welcome around the league, but he fit in fine with the no nonsense Patriots and helped them to the SB.

Moss was a ZERO?

Good grief.

He was one of the most talented receivers in NFL history.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Moss was a ZERO?

Good grief.

He was one of the most talented receivers in NFL history.

At that point in his career? yea, he was basically dropping in value significantly. He was beyond talented, but his NFL stock had plummeted by that time. He had just finished playing a 500ish yard season for the Oakland Raiders in 2006 and was basically on his way out of the league.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

At that point in his career? yea, he was basically dropping in value significantly. He was beyond talented, but his NFL stock had plummeted by that time. He had just finished playing a 500ish yard season for the Oakland Raiders in 2006 and was basically on his way out of the league.

Who were the QB's there and coach? They were 2-14 FCOL.

The previous year he had over 1,000 yards. Was it him or ???

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Who were the QB's there and coach? They were 2-14 FCOL.

The previous year he had over 1,000 yards. Was it him or ???

Joe I'm not trying to argue with you that Moss was a great player I'm just trying to point out that perception of him wasn't high at that point in his career, he wasn't performing (regardless of who was at fault for that) and the fact that he was very vocal and a bit of a locker room cancer at the time had him low on the priority list for NFL teams.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

At that point in his career? yea, he was basically dropping in value significantly. He was beyond talented, but his NFL stock had plummeted by that time. He had just finished playing a 500ish yard season for the Oakland Raiders in 2006 and was basically on his way out of the league.

The only reason his stock dropped was because he was in Oakland with no QB and he didnt care. Once he got to NE his attitude changed and so did his play with a guy who could actually get him the ball.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

Joe I'm not trying to argue with you that Moss was a great player I'm just trying to point out that perception of him wasn't high at that point in his career, he wasn't performing (regardless of who was at fault for that) and the fact that he was very vocal and a bit of a locker room cancer at the time had him low on the priority list for NFL teams.

See North's response above.

TIA.

Originally Posted by Northman

The only reason his stock dropped was because he was in Oakland with no QB and he didnt care. Once he got to NE his attitude changed and so did his play with a guy who could actually get him the ball.

Thanks for completely agreeing with everything I was saying...

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

See North's response above.

TIA.

All I was saying was that he was viewed negatively by the league. The reasons are pointless because I'm not even trying to argue with you. He was a steal for the patriots because they bought him when he was at a low point in his career.

It's hilarious that the two of you are arguing this. He's one of the greatest WR's of all time, I'm not saying otherwise. I'm just saying he was a malcontent in oakland and his performance dropped.

Correct, performance dropped because of poor QB play, that doesn't make my original statement that he was viewed poorly (thus why the patriots got him for pennies on the dime) a wrong statement. You guys are arguing to argue.

He was close to being finished in the NFL and New England took a chance on him for next to nothing, he worked hard because he had a reason to and had a record setting season and outstanding finish to his career.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

It's hilarious that the two of you are arguing this. He's one of the greatest WR's of all time, I'm not saying otherwise. I'm just saying he was a malcontent in oakland and his performance dropped.

Correct, performance dropped because of poor QB play, that doesn't make my original statement that he was viewed poorly (thus why the patriots got him for pennies on the dime) a wrong statement. You guys are arguing to argue.

He was close to being finished in the NFL and New England took a chance on him for next to nothing, he worked hard because he had a reason to and had a record setting season and outstanding finish to his career.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

It's not my fault you struggle to comprehend and need someone to break it down for you man...

Originally Posted by Freyaka

It's not my fault you struggle to comprehend and need someone to break it down for you man...

This is what you get for defending one of Cugel's ridiculous posts.

Please, show me where I said anything that contradicted myself. I simply said he wasn't thought highly of because he was a malcontent and had a very poor season the year before.

For some reason that offended you and North enough that you had to start making excuses for Moss.

I never said anything negative about Moss, just simply that he was in rough shape from a perception standpoint and had New England not rehabbed him, he'd have been done. New England got him for a steal because they were willing to take a chance on damaged goods. Whoever takes Brown will likely end up getting him cheap because of this and it's likely he has a similar strong finish. After his most recent tweets, I'm no longer sure I want Brown personally, but it's a similar situation.

For Moss, his final years of his career were brilliant, I never said anything to the contrary. I hate his final years because he was a pat and screw the pats, but from a talent standpoint, he was amazing and he played amazingly in new england.

To back pedal I would have to have said something like "moss sucked" and then turn around and say he didn't. I never said that, if you interpreted it that way, that's your fault for possibly having a low reading comprehension level. I never at any point made that statement.

I think I'm going to have to give this one to Frey. He literally said in his first post in this discussion that Moss was "beyond talented". Sorry Joe, don't see any backtrack. His arguments in this thread have been consistent.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

THANK YOU! Good lord... Him and north come in here acting like I think Moss was trash, I never said anything of the sort, just said he was viewed poorly circa 2006 prior to having a breakout comeback circa 2007.

It's nothing controversial here guys...

Wave is your lord?