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Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
Nelson would have been dope if we had a QB.
He will be a great guard, one of the best ever. But the best guard ever barely fits in the top 100 players of all time. At least when you rank position impact. Or, in other words, Kyle Long is one of the best players in the league when he's healthy. Next to Mack, he's Chicago's best player, or at least was before the injuries piled up.
He's about their 8th most important player.
I'm a little late jumping in here but if you want to see how the Nelson hype unfolded during the pre-draft process, here's good thread to look through. I'll be putting up the second installment of safest pick in the draft sometime today.
http://www.broncosforums.com/forums/...ht=safest+pick
I'd still rather have Chubb...
I'd have been ok with either, but one is a Bronco, the other isn't. I hate playing the "oh man, we could have had this player game" Chubb's a Bronco, as a Bronco, unless he's a total pile of garbage, I will support him. Nate "Celebration Station" Webster comes to mind....screw that guy!
I’ve just got to say because this thread keeps popping up - I watched the KC/Indy playoff game and Nelson was completely ineffective. KC put tons of pressure on Luck and they just brought the pressure around him. I saw several plays where he blocked absolutely nobody, stood there with his hands out like a traffic cop because they chose to overload the other side, then he didn’t even help out the tackle on his side so Luck got hit.
Several times when they did line up on him square, the DT would drive him into the pocket like he was Max Garcia or something. I didn’t watch any Indy games except this one this year, but I will say that I wasn’t impressed by him at all and it more than solidified the decision to take Chubb over him in my mind. He might be a HOFer some day, but if you can just occupy him with your worst Dlinemen and rush the other gaps with your better ones, you can completely neutralize him.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was an all pro based more on name recognition than skill. Like Mike Iupati who was the other most hyped guard ever and was/is just okay at Guard but got lots of name recognition and problem/all pro nods thanks to the Mayocks and Kipers of the world. I know most wont agree with me, but it is what it is.
“Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.” -Winston Churchill
So...you're saying he is not perfect, and played like a rookie in a big game. I guess those excuses are only good for QBs.
No, I’m saying I don’t get the love and adoration for him. Especially because he’s a non-Bronco in the Broncos Talk forum. This should’ve been in the other teams forum to start with. People want to act like he is the reason for Indy’s turnaround. Let’s be honest here, Indy’s turnaround was because Luck came back, not because they drafted a guard with the #6 overall pick. Indy’s record would’ve been the same with or without Nelson.
“Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.” -Winston Churchill
I haven't read where he is the sole reason for Indy's success. As Ziggy stated, some believed he would have been a great/safe pick, and his body of work over the season proved right. Rookie All Pro.....you can't dismiss that. I haven't read where anyone said, "I wish I had Nelson over Chubb." I would say their HC is the reason for the turnaround.
HP....Luck did a hell of a job, and I'm not discounting him. It's a combination of things that the Colts had the significant turnaround this year. I don't love Nelson, but knew he would be a difference maker with his talent, and make everyone around him better. Colts are gonna be really good in years to come, if Reich keeps them on this path. Here's an article to describe their season....... https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...om-historic-t/
As far as why this is in Broncos Talk, I don't know.
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