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    Quote Originally Posted by aberdien View Post
    I'd rather have Stafford than Wentz.
    Martha Ford won't allow it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cugel View Post
    Well they dont, they will keep Wentz.
    Who the **** asked your sources?
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    The actual trade cost for Wentz would start at 2 first round picks, and likely have to include a player of value as well. It's not happening. Foles will be traded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderArmour View Post
    The actual trade cost for Wentz would start at 2 first round picks, and likely have to include a player of value as well. It's not happening. Foles will be traded.
    Foles can opt out, the only way they keep him is to commit to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Foles can opt out, the only way they keep him is to commit to him.
    Correct.

    Either the Eagles or Foles can walk away. He has one year. If the Eagles exercise the option it's 20 million. If they don't it's a 10 million dollar cap hit.

    If they exercise the option Foles can block it and repay a 2 million dollar portion of his signing bonus.

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    I honestly think Foles will not succeed anywhere outside of Philly in the limited role he currently has.

    He has been clutch, i will give him that - but the Foles train ends the second he leaves Philly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Foles can opt out, the only way they keep him is to commit to him.
    There is zero chance they would commit to him after the drafted Wentz. If they were equal, which they are not, they would still keep Wentz because he's much cheaper. Foles earned $13.6m this year and Wentz, $7.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderArmour View Post
    The actual trade cost for Wentz would start at 2 first round picks, and likely have to include a player of value as well. It's not happening. Foles will be traded.
    2 first for Wentz would be well worth it. What player we would have to trade on top of that...who knows. Definitely wouldn’t be Von. Who else do we have that’s trade worthy? Wolfe? CHJ?

    Philly won’t trade Wentz but they should still take phone calls and if they do ...Elway better be on the other end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenBronx View Post
    2 first for Wentz would be well worth it. What player we would have to trade on top of that...who knows. Definitely wouldn’t be Von. Who else do we have that’s trade worthy? Wolfe? CHJ?

    Philly won’t trade Wentz but they should still take phone calls and if they do ...Elway better be on the other end.
    Is he really worth it? We have the #10 overall pick. Is he really that much better than Haskins, Lock, Jones, Murray, etc? Like another first and a second/player better? I’m not so sure. He looked great last year before being hurt. This year, before being hurt again, he looked remarkably average. Just because he was everyone’s lovechild last year doesn’t mean he’s top 10 in the league. He really doesn’t have the body of work yet. He’s not much more than Foles before him, or Matt Cassell in NE, or even Case Keenum in Minnesota.

    Philly squeaked back into the playoffs this year based on Foles not losing the last 3 games. They probably weren’t getting in if Wentz had not gotten hurt. This is my opinion of course, but in the Philly games I saw this year, Wentz didn’t look good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderArmour View Post
    I'm not wrong though. There's a reason DT, Talib, and other veteran players don't share this "leader of men" enthusiasm players currently on the team do. VJ frequently threw people under the bus instead of owning it himself.

    A good coach is going to deflect the criticism and the blame, but instead VJ openly magnified criticisms towards his players and staff.
    Maybe they are loser players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeefStew25 View Post
    Maybe they are loser players.
    Yep, everyone else sucks but VJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeefStew25 View Post
    Maybe they are loser players.
    They got rings. VJ doesn't.
    They're won playoff games. VJ was part of a 2011 and 2012 Texans staff that beat the Bengals, but those are his only playoff wins in his career. Every other season? No playoff wins.

    VJ is definitely the loser, but he tricked the Broncos into hiring him, so I guess we're the losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    Yep, everyone else sucks but VJ.
    Who said that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderArmour View Post
    They got rings. VJ doesn't.
    They're won playoff games. VJ was part of a 2011 and 2012 Texans staff that beat the Bengals, but those are his only playoff wins in his career. Every other season? No playoff wins.

    VJ is definitely the loser, but he tricked the Broncos into hiring him, so I guess we're the losers.
    Munchak is a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeefStew25 View Post
    Munchak is a winner.
    Hall of Famer. I'd take him over VJ any day of the week. He is mediocre, but he would fall on the sword for his guys and handle business in house.

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