Thread: No Surviving: Vance Joseph FIRED

Forcing coaches to keep the old staff is Jerry Jones style.

I still don't get where you guys are coming up with Elway forcing the existing coaching staff on the new HC.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

See, this is something that bothers me (not Jaded, but he also bothers all of us, but the Broncos keeping half the staff).

I want my coach hand-picking his staff. I want him to have a vision and execute that vision, systematically, with every coach, from who that coach is to how he’s going to coach and what personnel is needed for their positions. And I want the head coach taking all that to the GM and telling him get me guys that fit this system.

I feel like the Broncos are doing it in the opposite direction, and that’s fine and chain-of-command-wise logical. I just think teams need to rethink how they build internally and start with scheme. It feels like square peg, round hole to me.

I’m literally too stupid to offend.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

See, this is something that bothers me (not Jaded, but he also bothers all of us, but the Broncos keeping half the staff).

I want my coach hand-picking his staff. I want him to have a vision and execute that vision, systematically, with every coach, from who that coach is to how he’s going to coach and what personnel is needed for their positions. And I want the head coach taking all that to the GM and telling him get me guys that fit this system.

I feel like the Broncos are doing it in the opposite direction, and that’s fine and chain-of-command-wise logical. I just think teams need to rethink how they build internally and start with scheme. It feels like square peg, round hole to me.

I think it's more having them under contract to give the next guy an option. Unfortunately, that option is going to come with a budget, and that budget is going to fundamentally require, or complete hamstring, the incoming HC to keep a lot of the existing contracts. There are financials, and the coaching circle is fairly tight-knit as well, so whoever comes in will get the opportunity to wipe out at least half of the assistant coaches, likely 70% of them. Guys like Kollar though ought to always have a job, and it would be wrong of Elway to deprive a new HC the opportunity to have elite coaches like him with a blanket cleaning of house.

This circumstance is vastly different though. With VJ, it was: are you really going to come in and fire coaches with a Super Bowl ring? Honestly, it makes it even more questionable the guy got the job in the first place. It wasn't like McDaniels where you were hiring a guy that had championship pedigree to him, but lacked the leadership qualities. VJ may have had leadership qualities, but he had no clue what it meant or took to be a champion, which fundamentally led to an undisciplined football team lacking vision.

Let’s be honest, it’s about the money these coaches will get whether they’re coaching for this team or not.

Originally Posted by King87

Forcing coaches to keep the old staff is Jerry Jones style.

They are under contract. See if the new guys wants em or not. Calm down

Originally Posted by BeefStew25

They are under contract. See if the new guys wants em or not. Calm down

That's exactly what Elway said yesterday.

Originally Posted by Nomad

That's exactly what Elway said yesterday.

But then king can’t go on an autistic rant.

Originally Posted by BeefStew25

But then king can’t go on an autistic rant.

Didn't you dislike it when people called VJ radio?

Originally Posted by BeefStew25

They are under contract. See if the new guys wants em or not. Calm down

A single post is fiery, eh.

Originally Posted by King87

Didn't you dislike it when people called VJ radio?

You’re really autistic

Originally Posted by BeefStew25

You’re really autistic

Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

Originally Posted by BeefStew25

You’re really autistic

Don't be a shadow of your old self, Beef. It's 2019. Handsome, you can have the world if you want it.

Originally Posted by King87

Don't be a shadow of your old self, Beef. It's 2019. Handsome, you can have the world if you want it.

You been on here all day talking to yourself?

Originally Posted by BeefStew25

You been on here all day talking to yourself?

Jaded, Northman, and I resent this comment.