Thread: Let’s be brutally honest...

Who in their right mind wants this job?

This came up on Sportstalk Radio today.

We all have favorites, grand ideas ... but weigh the Pros and Cons.

The Broncos are attractive to the two things we want the least, a retread or another low-upside unproven, and they might have to put the word “desperate” in front of retread/unproven.

Anyway, Happy Holidays.

Lincoln ******* Riley wants it. He just doesn't know it yet.

There are only 32 of these jobs in the world and, on average, only 5 available per year. We're just as good a selling point as the others who will be available. With the possible exception of Green Bay.

The sky isn't falling Jaded Little

I think it's still a desirable job. One, Denver should have decent amounts of cap room. Two, there is a legacy of success. Three, say what you want about Elway, but he doesn't stand still and remain idle.

But, the cons are the instability regarding ownership and how that might impact decisions from atop. Also, let's be honest, Elway probably is seen as hard to work with. It is what it is. The division we're in looks tough. Rivers isn't going to fall off a cliff regarding play, or literally, in the next two years. The Chiefs at minimum are a regular season machine with Mahomes.

The roster is in between a pro and a con. Personally, I think we have more issues with at than most people. But, there are some sharp people who disagree with that sentiment, and I can respect it.

We have the pass rush down pat, and presuming we keep Barrett, there's some depth. The defensive line could use a little work, but it's not a weakness. Harris looks especially promising, albeit he's a favorite of mine so I am a little biased. But, our ILBs are just bad. I don't want to hear anything about Jewell, he's not shown much promise this year. Marshall isn't good, either. And our secondary is just bad outside of Harris. Neither safety is a playmaker, nor are they really good at anything. The corners we have are all bad at the game of football. Scheme didn't help, but at a certain point you're either a pro, or you're not.

The offense is interesting. Sanders, with that injury, might never be the same. Sutton looks like he could be quite good. Hamilton and Patrick show promise. We have two legitimate running backs. The line will need some work as we're probably losing Veldheer at RT, and Paradis might leave (Jaded goes wild) which is another hole. But, there are worse lines in the NFL. We have no tight ends. We have one of the worst QB's in the game, being paid a chunk of money.

Truth be told, this is a roster that...could go either way. People are saying that we should have more wins, but I'm not sold on that. Yeah, we lost games to some really bad teams, but we also won two games that the opposition handed to us via Pitt and S.D. so at best it averaged out. I think more likely we got lucky in those two aforementioned wins, and those losses are more in line with our talent. Admittedly, we probably should have won one of them, because those lesser teams...also sucked.

Issue isn't finding a head coach. Issue is finding a quarterback. This team probably has the best top 2 outside pass rushers in the league, and Elway will hopefully bring back Shaq Barrett as the 3rd guy. This team has loads of young talent, and probably could have been a 10-11 win team with the right coaching staff.

Originally Posted by UnderArmour

Issue isn't finding a head coach. Issue is finding a quarterback. This team probably has the best top 2 outside pass rushers in the league, and Elway will hopefully bring back Shaq Barrett as the 3rd guy. This team has loads of young talent, and probably could have been a 10-11 win team with the right coaching staff.

How many current staffs in the NFL do you think could achieve that?

Not looking to try to style on you, just curious.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Lincoln ******* Riley wants it. He just doesn't know it yet.

I’m in.

#GodWhatHaveIBecome?

Originally Posted by King87

I think it's still a desirable job. One, Denver should have decent amounts of cap room. Two, there is a legacy of success. Three, say what you want about Elway, but he doesn't stand still and remain idle.

But, the cons are the instability regarding ownership and how that might impact decisions from atop. Also, let's be honest, Elway probably is seen as hard to work with. It is what it is. The division we're in looks tough. Rivers isn't going to fall off a cliff regarding play, or literally, in the next two years. The Chiefs at minimum are a regular season machine with Mahomes.

The roster is in between a pro and a con. Personally, I think we have more issues with at than most people. But, there are some sharp people who disagree with that sentiment, and I can respect it.

We have the pass rush down pat, and presuming we keep Barrett, there's some depth. The defensive line could use a little work, but it's not a weakness. Harris looks especially promising, albeit he's a favorite of mine so I am a little biased. But, our ILBs are just bad. I don't want to hear anything about Jewell, he's not shown much promise this year. Marshall isn't good, either. And our secondary is just bad outside of Harris. Neither safety is a playmaker, nor are they really good at anything. The corners we have are all bad at the game of football. Scheme didn't help, but at a certain point you're either a pro, or you're not.

The offense is interesting. Sanders, with that injury, might never be the same. Sutton looks like he could be quite good. Hamilton and Patrick show promise. We have two legitimate running backs. The line will need some work as we're probably losing Veldheer at RT, and Paradis might leave (Jaded goes wild) which is another hole. But, there are worse lines in the NFL. We have no tight ends. We have one of the worst QB's in the game, being paid a chunk of money.

Truth be told, this is a roster that...could go either way. People are saying that we should have more wins, but I'm not sold on that. Yeah, we lost games to some really bad teams, but we also won two games that the opposition handed to us via Pitt and S.D. so at best it averaged out. I think more likely we got lucky in those two aforementioned wins, and those losses are more in line with our talent. Admittedly, we probably should have won one of them, because those lesser teams...also sucked.

Before I commit the rest of 2018 to this post did you weigh Pros and Cons in here, KingCuJoel?

Originally Posted by Davii

There are only 32 of these jobs in the world and, on average, only 5 available per year. We're just as good a selling point as the others who will be available. With the possible exception of Green Bay.

The sky isn't falling Jaded Little

You tell the sweetest lies.

Btw, I like that as a screen name.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Before I commit the rest of 2018 to this post did you weigh Pros and Cons in here, KingCuJoel?

The way you're talking, it's like you don't love to live.

Originally Posted by King87

The way you're talking, it's like you don't love to live.

I live to love and it’s breaking my heart.

Originally Posted by Jaded

I live to love and it’s breaking my heart.

I told your mother to raise you so you didn't love QB's.

But she loved Elway, and the rest is history...history that I just ******* made up.

Originally Posted by Jaded

You tell the sweetest lies.

Btw, I like that as a screen name.

It's a shitty screen name.

Originally Posted by King87

I told your mother to raise you so you didn't love QB's.

But she loved Elway, and the rest is history...history that I just ******* made up.

You were close, she loved Morton. I was creepy.

Originally Posted by Davii

It's a shitty screen name.

You've been in a shitty mood for awhile.

Yeah, you can kill me with ease, but I can still be worried about my friend.

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