Thread: Believe it or not, Broncos could still grab wild card

Originally Posted by King87

albeit the team he's around isn't as strong.

I dont know about that, Denver's running game is better than he had with the Vikings. Granted. last year the Vikings D was better than this years Denver D but a good QB can make up for that by putting more points on the board. And even when DT was here he was unable to fully utilize the WR corp which is very good in Denver. The only good thing about the last 3 games is his ability not to turn the ball over (knock on wood).

Originally Posted by Northman

I dont know about that, Denver's running game is better than he had with the Vikings. Granted. last year the Vikings D was better than this years Denver D but a good QB can make up for that by putting more points on the board. And even when DT was here he was unable to fully utilize the WR corp which is very good in Denver. The only good thing about the last 3 games is his ability not to turn the ball over (knock on wood).

I think DT was hindering more than he was helping Keenum. That's not a knock on DT, but he just didn't fit here anymore. Sutton took a little time to adjust to the role, but he's getting there.

Originally Posted by Northman

If Elway and the brass did not feel that Keenum could be the guy than there was no reason to pay him more money when Siemian was a cheaper option.

We would not be .500 with Siemian right now. Case may be a journeyman/backup, but I’d still rather have him.

Originally Posted by Northman

I dont know about that, Denver's running game is better than he had with the Vikings. Granted. last year the Vikings D was better than this years Denver D but a good QB can make up for that by putting more points on the board. And even when DT was here he was unable to fully utilize the WR corp which is very good in Denver. The only good thing about the last 3 games is his ability not to turn the ball over (knock on wood).

Keenum likes to throw to his TEs. Last year he had Kyle Rudolph who got 57 receptions, 8 TDs and was named to to the Pro-Bowl and 1st Team All-Pro honors. This year his leading TE is Jeff Heurman who has 2 TDs and 3 broken ribs and is on IR.

He was an all-pro, with those numbers?

Originally Posted by Northman

If Elway and the brass did not feel that Keenum could be the guy than there was no reason to pay him more money when Siemian was a cheaper option.

Imho the reason Keenum is here is because he's a little stronger mentally than Siemian. Ability wise there doesn't seem to be that much difference, again imo.

Originally Posted by Northman

If Elway and the brass did not feel that Keenum could be the guy than there was no reason to pay him more money when Siemian was a cheaper option.

Disagree. It was OBVIOUS Siemian wasn't the answer, the was a CHANCE Case was or could be. If Elway thought he was for sure he would've offered a longer contract. 2 years is nothing inn the NFL and is definitely not a long-term deal, it's a "prove it" deal with a nice paycheck attached.

I think we’d be 4-8 if we had Siemian. He was a turnover machine last year.

Case is clearly an upgrade over what we've experienced the past two years.

I can see the difference between Keenum and Siemian. Keenum is an upgrade on offense. Broncos have to win all 4 games and it will be somewhat tough without WR Sanders and CB Harris Jr.

WR Sanders is out. I hope RB Lindsay can play Slot WR in several passing plays. It would be fun to watch Lindsay play Slot WR for several plays. RB Royce Freeman and FB Janovich are there on the field.

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

I think we’d be 4-8 if we had Siemian. He was a turnover machine last year.

His balls never completely dropped. Tough dude in that he took his medicine, but too panicky in the moment. Keenum, for all his many warts, definitely has fully descended testes. They dropped so suddenly they pulled his head down to his shoulders, rendering him big-balled but neckless.

Originally Posted by Magnificent Seven

I can see the difference between Keenum and Siemian. Keenum is an upgrade on offense. Broncos have to win all 4 games and it will be somewhat tough without WR Sanders and CB Harris Jr.

WR Sanders is out. I hope RB Lindsay can play Slot WR in several passing plays. It would be fun to watch Lindsay play Slot WR for several plays. RB Royce Freeman and FB Janovich are there on the field.

They should at least split out Lindsay on 2 RB plays with an abbreviated route template. A lot to ask to turn your RB into a WR in a week.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

They should at least split out Lindsay on 2 RB plays with an abbreviated route template. A lot to ask to turn your RB into a WR in a week.

Especially considering the workload he carries at running back.

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

Especially considering the workload he carries at running back.

I do like the idea of getting him in space with a head of steam. Borrow some Sproles footage and do that stuff. He'd get the tiny windows he needed for explosive gains on the most innocuously developing plays.