Thread: Lakers Thread

tl;dr

Originally Posted by NightTrainLayne

I keep on wanting to just let this argument go, and then you go and make silly assertions like LBJ is a better leader.

No. Just no.

Just look at Tuesday night. LBJ broke the record at the end of the third quarter. Gave a speech. Watched a highlight video etc.

Then what? He scored 2 points after all that, and sat on the bench most of the 4th Quarter while his team lost at home.

Jordan ain't letting that game slide. And he's not going to be sitting on the bench in such a game. Leadership doesn't happen on the bench.

Yes, "blah blah, his foot has been bothering him." Well it didn't bother him much getting to the record.

This drive and leadership, is a huge part of what made Jordan the greatest. And when Jordan didn't have that drive, he went to go play baseball instead of doing it half-assed.

The argument that Jordan is the greatest is not silly. You might disagree with it, fine, but it's easily supportable.

This shows how biased you are and with respect, you should really look inward.

He gave a speech, just like players do when they hit 3k hits, or 500 homers, or break the league's rushing record like Emmitt Smith did. They played a highlight video, as often happens. This is par for the course stuff.

Then what? He scored two points as an exhusted 38 y ear guy with a busted up foot and the team sat him. I don't care if MJ wouldn't have allowed that. MJ doesn't play in this league right now. MJ was actually benched several times in his career when he didn't want to be. You actually think LBJ was stoked to be benched? The foot didn't bother him? I'm sure the adrenaline of chasing that record, in front of Kareem, and the hometown fans, on live t.v., while leading up to the game/storyline he was interviewed a lot about it....y eah that didn't matter.

The argument for Jordan is becoming more and more about rings. No one here believes Montana was better than Elway; Elway was better on the field stats be damned, and a better player rings be damned. LBJ is better on the court because he's at worst a marginally lesser scorer (debatable) and a much better passer as he's one of the best ever, a better rounder, a better three point shooter, and a much more versatile defender. Sound familiar. If you want to embrace Montana/Bradshaw> Elway arguments on this website go ahead. It's not quite the same thing as Dilfer> Marino, but that argument is a cousin, so to speak.

In this argument, again, you don't differentiate anything to show that LBJ is a worse leader, or that leadership is the difference in anything, or that even if it was it was the difference itself. You don't establish your own arguments and show that your presuppositions hold water.

This would be the part where Davii should be curt with you and harangue you, and Hawg should be talking about an olive branch of truth or some shit.

I'm going back to my chips. Them shits is good.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

tl;dr

This made my day. I'd share my chips with you.

Originally Posted by King87

This made my day. I'd share my chips with you.

You truly are one emotional dude! That's not an insult, BTW. I am too, and don't want your wrath upon me!!

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

You truly are one emotional dude! That's not an insult, BTW. I am too, and don't want your wrath upon me!!

I used to be so stoic my mom thought I was a psychopath. I do have trouble trying to make my online verbiage less forceful. Never worked out. It was pretty useful for my scant time as a law student and mini-attorney. I don't have any wrath for anyone. I'm 99% huggable. But when I think I'm treated unfairly, and I reflect on it and still feel that way, I say what I have to say. I probably should have just let some of that stuff slide, but then it would feel like I'm either ceding defeat when I don't think I'm wrong, or saying it's okay for me to be treated like that. I dunno. These days I just want to be able to post like everyone else.

I was wrong; I have wrath for these chips.

I don't think Bamba is a useful pickup at all, but now I have a reason to listen to this banger.

Originally Posted by King87

Now I'm going to go ahead presume that you weren't arguing in bad faith, or Hawg wasn't with his little needles, and that Davii didn't realize he was shitting on me. But don't ever, ever, call my name like that again. The irony is that you can find a lot of similarities in how I post with how you do.

I would recommend just walking away from this one boys. I'd rather just get that one off my chest and pretend that 'the homies' didn't come out in full force to belittle me and misrepresent me.

I really do endeavour to never make a bad-faith argument, so I appreciate your presumption there.

I'm honored to be in a list of posters with Hawg and Davii as folks that you'll give the benefit of the doubt to, because Hawg and Davii are a couple of guys here who I truly believe to be truth-seekers.

If I thought Hawg and Davii were shitting on me, it would cause me to do some thinking about what I was doing.

And you're probably right. You and I may be very much alike, and that might be why we consistently rub each other the wrong way. I'll have to ponder that.

Originally Posted by NightTrainLayne

I really do endeavour to never make a bad-faith argument, so I appreciate your presumption there.

I'm honored to be in a list of posters with Hawg and Davii as folks that you'll give the benefit of the doubt to, because Hawg and Davii are a couple of guys here who I truly believe to be truth-seekers.

If I thought Hawg and Davii were shitting on me, it would cause me to do some thinking about what I was doing.

And you're probably right. You and I may be very much alike, and that might be why we consistently rub each other the wrong way. I'll have to ponder that.

I think you're wired the same way I am: some level of emotion greater than normal, a devotion to logic that is actually fueled by emotion, the thirst of knowledge that makes you emotional in a good way.

The thing of it is is that I did think about what I was doing. Arguing the same way everyone else does on the board, yet I was getting called out for it, even if they...never have to live up to their demands of me. That part is objectively clear: I could pull up a bunch of recent posts and nail that point home hard. It doesn't matter. None of this matters.

I actually figured out what the main issue is here, but I'm tired of sullying this once fine and beautiful thread filled with overpriced FA's and the best boob jobs around. There was one...version of King who got along with everyone.

Moving on now. We have a real roster for once! I think if we had this roster at season's start we'd be around the 4-7th seed. We are going to, with some luck, be a play-in team and get slapped by the number one seed.

Season is over. Damn.

Originally Posted by King87

Season is over. Damn.

Time for LeBron to join Ja in Memphis and get one more ring on the way out!

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Time for LeBron to join Ja in Memphis and get one more ring on the way out!

Ja is too busy pretending to be a gangster for James to do all that.

There is some irony in LBJ getting called for missing the rest of the game after breaking the scoring record, missing several games due to a foot injury, and then having a tendon injury in his foot.

Originally Posted by King87

Ja is too busy pretending to be a gangster for James to do all that.

There is some irony in LBJ getting called for missing the rest of the game after breaking the scoring record, missing several games due to a foot injury, and then having a tendon injury in his foot.

I really do wish Ja would stop being such a doo doo head off the court.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

I really do wish Ja would stop being such a doo doo head off the court.

That and a more consistent jumper is what can stop him.

He’s still a monster though.

Davis with a monster night. Health and lacking in focus stop him from being a dominant player night in and night out.