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    Default Report: Broncos Players Coveted at Trade Deadline

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/b...rebuild-looms/
    The Broncos staved off immediate staff changes by pounding the Cardinals in Arizona on Thursday night, but the club remains at a difficult crossroads with a potential rebuild ahead, and other NFL teams have begun reaching out about acquiring some of their veteran talent.
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    there were strong rumblings of the Broncos trading a veteran receiver like Emmanuel Sanders, 31, or Demaryius Thomas, 30, and league sources said several teams have interest in Sanders
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    Teams have also been exploring the availability of Denver's corners,
    The trade deadline is October 30. There is a high likelihood that Elway ships off at least one $5+ million salary veteran ahead of the trade deadline, and Emmanuel and DT make the most sense.

    Another report from Adam Schefter this morning claims the Broncos are listening to offers for DT, but telling teams "no" when it comes to Sanders.
    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...maryius-thomas
    A handful of teams have reached out to Denver to see if the Broncos would be willing to part ways with the five-time Pro-Bowler, who was a first-round pick in 2010, and Denver has not rebuffed those advances to date, according to sources.
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    Denver has not been interested in listening to teams who have called about Sanders.
    We'll see what happens, but I think somebody does get moved.

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    Good thread.
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    DT trade talks heat up allegedly from Schefter

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25041161/denver-broncos-listening-trade-offers-star-wr-demaryius-thomas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazam! View Post
    DT trade talks heat up allegedly from Schefter

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...maryius-thomas
    That’s the same article the OP quoted..

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    Yes, but this time, it's personal.
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    https://cardswire.usatoday.com/2018/...equests-trade/

    According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, Peterson has requested a trade from the Cardinals, just a week after saying publicly he was committed to the team.
    Make this freaking happen Elway. DT for Peterson. I'm sure we'll have to throw in several picks to sweeten things, but make this deal done. This would be like the Champ for Portis swap all over again and will have a massive impact on the quality of our defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyaka View Post
    https://cardswire.usatoday.com/2018/...equests-trade/



    Make this freaking happen Elway. DT for Peterson. I'm sure we'll have to throw in several picks to sweeten things, but make this deal done. This would be like the Champ for Portis swap all over again and will have a massive impact on the quality of our defense.
    Pipe dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
    Pipe dream
    I don't think it is. If he's discontent and wants out, they need more targets for their struggling young QB. DT's still got some years left in him and if he would be willing to restructure for the Cards, he could be very helpful to Rosen's growth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
    Pipe dream
    may as well pipe dream big, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    may as well pipe dream big, right?
    I guess...but if I put my Cardinals GM hat on, why do I want to trade for another aging WR with a big price tag...or a CB going into FA this year when I have nothing to play for? At that point I'm asking for top draft picks or young talent for my top 5 corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyaka View Post
    https://cardswire.usatoday.com/2018/...equests-trade/



    Make this freaking happen Elway. DT for Peterson. I'm sure we'll have to throw in several picks to sweeten things, but make this deal done. This would be like the Champ for Portis swap all over again and will have a massive impact on the quality of our defense.
    Well, if Elway is selling off the team's ageing veterans, he's sure as hell not taking on Patrick Peterson and his contract. He's counting on rebuilding next year with young players and Patrick Peterson isn't interested in coming to a rebuilding team.

    What I wonder is how guys like Derek Wolfe and Sanders and Von Miller react to Elway dismantling the team right after a big win? Wolfe is probably gone next year along with Roby, Todd Davis, Brandon Marshall (who is playing hurt this year).

    At some point, players are going to start thinking "I have to protect myself since I'll be a FA next year. I can't get hurt heading into free agency!" And they stop playing for their team-mates, and start looking out for themselves.

    In short the exact opposite of they way they played on Thursday night, which was the first time in about 2 years they've totally bought in to a TEAM concept and playing for each other with intensity.

    It would be interesting to see what happens the rest of this year, but Elway is obviously all in on tanking in 2018 and getting the top draft pick he can. If they do that I doubt I bother to watch all the remaining games of 2018. It's going to be like being a Raiders fan with all the losing around here! And that sucks.

    Add D.T. and they number of players left from the 2015 SB team is down to single digits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cugel View Post
    What I wonder is how guys like Derek Wolfe and Sanders and Von Miller react to Elway dismantling the team right after a big win?
    good grief. . . drama queen much?



    listening to offers for one guy out of 53 is now "dismantling the team?" come on! these guys are pros, they understand that it's a part of the business. . . they'll be fine. . . also, no one wants to put bad film out there before going into free agency-- or to get a reputation for milking injuries and missing time. . . most guys can't afford to do what le'veon bell is. . . i wouldn't worry about players not giving effort, even if we do end up moving DT. . . he's a franchise icon, but guys with even better careers have been traded before, and will be traded again. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cugel View Post
    Well, if Elway is selling off the team's ageing veterans, he's sure as hell not taking on Patrick Peterson and his contract. He's counting on rebuilding next year with young players and Patrick Peterson isn't interested in coming to a rebuilding team.

    What I wonder is how guys like Derek Wolfe and Sanders and Von Miller react to Elway dismantling the team right after a big win? Wolfe is probably gone next year along with Roby, Todd Davis, Brandon Marshall (who is playing hurt this year).

    At some point, players are going to start thinking "I have to protect myself since I'll be a FA next year. I can't get hurt heading into free agency!" And they stop playing for their team-mates, and start looking out for themselves.

    In short the exact opposite of they way they played on Thursday night, which was the first time in about 2 years they've totally bought in to a TEAM concept and playing for each other with intensity.

    It would be interesting to see what happens the rest of this year, but Elway is obviously all in on tanking in 2018 and getting the top draft pick he can. If they do that I doubt I bother to watch all the remaining games of 2018. It's going to be like being a Raiders fan with all the losing around here! And that sucks.

    Add D.T. and they number of players left from the 2015 SB team is down to single digits.
    The whole notion of "rebuilding" is really an antiquated term. How, does a team in the hard cap era "rebuild" unless they have key players willing to restructure their contracts or pass up on big pay days?

    That, is a fallacy. This is and has been a win now league and has been for quite some time. The Pats are the glaring exception. One thing we know is the "Patriot way" is a bs term also. To show how that is true, look at the Belichick coaching tree. Hardly any successes. Not in the pros. Now look at the Bill Walsh coaching tree and branches that came out from it.

    The point is this is a win now league. If you have the chance to win now, you take that chance. Hence, the reason the draft often times has me frustrated about what we hope for. If the Broncos are fortunate enough to land 3 or 4 productive players in a draft, half of them are gone in 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncoknight30 View Post
    The whole notion of "rebuilding" is really an antiquated term. How, does a team in the hard cap era "rebuild" unless they have key players willing to restructure their contracts or pass up on big pay days?

    That, is a fallacy. This is and has been a win now league and has been for quite some time. The Pats are the glaring exception. One thing we know is the "Patriot way" is a bs term also. To show how that is true, look at the Belichick coaching tree. Hardly any successes. Not in the pros. Now look at the Bill Walsh coaching tree and branches that came out from it.

    The point is this is a win now league. If you have the chance to win now, you take that chance. Hence, the reason the draft often times has me frustrated about what we hope for. If the Broncos are fortunate enough to land 3 or 4 productive players in a draft, half of them are gone in 3 years.
    Rookie contracts in the NFL last for 4 years if it's 2nd or later round picks, with a 5th year option for 1st rounders.

    If a guy is gone after 3 years that's because the team decided not to keep him. Period.

    The Broncos have a bunch of players becoming UFAs because Elway decided not to retain them past their rookie deals. That is called failed drafting. If you were doing it right they should be locking up these players for their 2nd contract, and they should be doing it 1 year before they become FAs.

    That's what other team do. If you let a player hit FA they make too much money and you either can't compete or else have to overpay the player (examples are D.T. and Sanders).

    Another perfect example: Jared Veldheer. He's basically a below average player. He has talent and is effective when he's healthy, but he never stays healthy for long. For this reason the AZ Cardinals gave up on him and let the Broncos take him.

    In 2018 he earned "Veldheer will earn a base salary of $6,500,000 and a roster bonus of $406,250, while carrying a cap hit of $6,906,250 and a dead cap value of $6,500,000."

    Why would someone give Jared Veldheer $7 million a year when he's such a marginal and risky player? Lack of alternative really.

    If a guy is in position to move to another team via FA or trade, he will clean up.

    So, rookie contracts are the real deals for teams. And re-signing your own players a year before their contracts expire is cheaper than going out in FA or competing with the entire league for your own UFAs.

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    Wonder if we could package Roby and DT together for Peterson. Then they'd be gaining a WR and would still have some depth at WR. We'd kill two birds with one stone that way.

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