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    Your lack of faith is disturbing. Our epic SB run is now in day 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    did you see his mopey face out there? somebody needs to do a smokin' josh rosen meme. . .
    Dude looks like he's either:

    a. High as a kite all the time
    b. Has a saved seat on the short bus and wears a helmet full time

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    Quote Originally Posted by GEM View Post
    Dude looks like he's either:

    a. High as a kite all the time
    b. Has a saved seat on the short bus and wears a helmet full time
    LoL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GEM View Post
    Dude looks like he's either:

    a. High as a kite all the time
    b. Has a saved seat on the short bus and wears a helmet full time
    C) broncowave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis View Post
    C) broncowave
    Isn’t that the same as “C). Both A and B”?

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    I faintly remember a pic of BWave. I don't recall him having the droopy look like Rosen.

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    I deliberated over this question for a while because:

    Barkley and Chubb were the two best players in the draft
    Rosen has a lot of upside; and arm talent & QB is THE position.

    At the end of the day I’ll take the player who is already performing at a pro bowl level.

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    Was Chubb the right pick? Yes. Do we still need a starting caliber NFL QB? Undoubtedly. Damn I wish we could see Kelly in real game action.


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    If Elway thought Keenum would ever be better than PFM at anything football related he should be fired.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Sign Garbage Minshew.

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Did Cugel just go from blaming everything on #7 in one post to defending him in the next?

    Bi-polar much?

    And when did they move Chubb to DE?
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”

    Sign Garbage Minshew.

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Did Cugel just go from blaming everything on #7 in one post to defending him in the next?

    Bi-polar much?

    And when did they move Chubb to DE?
    He likes to cover all the bases so he can claim he was right.

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    As of today Miller is #1 in sacks with chubb right coming it at like #5

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    QB knowing the class this year is not as deep. Fricking with our OL and Def that has regressed, doesn't matter anyways. Oak is selling and Chucky is not Carr guy. #1, Case, Ray for him

    I can dream cant I

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    Quote Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56 View Post
    Was Chubb the right pick? Yes. Do we still need a starting caliber NFL QB? Undoubtedly. Damn I wish we could see Kelly in real game action.
    Just wait a few weeks and you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Did Cugel just go from blaming everything on #7 in one post to defending him in the next?

    Bi-polar much?

    And when did they move Chubb to DE?
    Chubb is now playing DE and has been the last 2 games in which he has 5 sacks, in case you need to de-fog your glasses! He was a DE in college and has not made an easy transition to not having his hand in the dirt at OLB, so they moved him back.

    As for Elway I was explaining his thinking. I don't think revisionary history is fair. Elway screwed up the draft for 4 years running, but this year's draft was very good.

    Elway's thought was that this team could compete for a deep playoff run with a game manager in Case Keenum, plus an elite defense and that the defense could be made elite again with an impact player like Chubb.

    He was probably right about Chubb. But, wrong about Keenum. And that caused him to waive the white flag and entertain offers for Demaryius Thomas, thus blowing up the season.

    The problem for the Broncos is that next year they are losing a bunch of veterans off this team.

    After Von Miller, the highest salaried players on the team would be:

    1. Keenum - salary cap $21m, cap hit for dumping him $10m.
    2. D.T. $17m including $14m base salary. cap hit from dumping him $3.5m
    3. Wolfe - $10m, cap hit from dumping him $2.375m
    4. Ron Leary - $9.3m. Cap hit from dumping him $1.75m.
    5. Brandon Marshall - $9m. Cap hit from dumping him $4m.
    6. Chris Harris - $8m, cap hit $866,000. And he's the one guy on this list they are probably keeping!
    7. Darien Stewart $6.4m, cap hit from dumping him $2m.

    Bradley Roby, Jared Veldheer, Domato Pecko, Trumaine Brock, Matt Paradis, Shane Ray, Shaquil Barrett, Billy Turner, Zach Kerr, Packman Jones, Jeff Heurmann, and Jordan Taylor are all UFA in 2019.

    As a complete rebuilding team, probably with a rookie QB, I can't see them re-signing very many of them. Matt Paradis will cost them $10m a year to retain. Up till last game, there was no reason to keep Roby. Shaquil Barrett has outlived his usefulness in Denver, etc.

    So, this year was Elway giving the veterans one last chance. It made sense, it meant (if it worked) that the Broncos would be competitive for a playoff berth in 2018. It just flat didn't work because Elway screwed up the draft for years, and the team was lacking in depth and sufficient talent to compete this year. That and Keenum turned out to suck.

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