Thread: Who got better deal?

ryan fitzpatrick. . .

Originally Posted by UnderArmour

It's always about playoff wins. If Kirk never wins a playoff game in a Viking uniform, ultimately that is what fans will remember about him for. Meanwhile, Case could play like crap and win a Super Bowl, and he'd always be a hero in Denver with Elway as the genius who signed him.

This is more than just true. It's key. The BIGGEST factor in analyzing QBs for the Hall of Fame is championships. Some voters held it against Elway that "he never won the big one" until he finally did, and even Dan Marino had people argue against him for that reason.

If Kirk Cousins never wins a playoff game for the Vikings, then he's Andy Dalton. And the fans will never forgive him. He'll be regarded as a bust in Minnesota.

Dont worry, Kirk will get some playoff wins because he is on a better squad now.

There are some interesting parallels with Keenum and Plummer. Both players ended the prior season in the conference championship with 3 or more turnovers and then started the next season with 3 or more turnovers. And then of course Jake ended up playing not that great the following season until he got benched for a younger QB. Think history will repeat itself? lol

Originally Posted by Northman

Dont worry, Kirk will get some playoff wins because he is on a better squad now.

That roster is stacked, and it matters for QB's. Look at how Bradford is doing now versus how he was in Minnesota.

Originally Posted by Northman

There are some interesting parallels with Keenum and Plummer. Both players ended the prior season in the conference championship with 3 or more turnovers and then started the next season with 3 or more turnovers. And then of course Jake ended up playing not that great the following season until he got benched for a younger QB. Think history will repeat itself? lol

Both similar. The big thing that people forget with Jake is that he also lost his biggest advocate in Kubes. Heimerdinger came in and stripped all the move and boot where plummer excelled. They essentially set him up to fail so they could start their shiny new toy

I never bought into that because the bootleg had been used for quite a few years with success but started to not work as much anymore. I knew this when the last time Jake tried to bootleg on the Chiefs they didnt fall for it. While Kubes is a way better coordinator than Dinger i was just never sold on this idea that a vet QB all of a sudden sucked because coordinators changed. Guys like Brady, Elway, etc have had different coordinators during their time and still played at a high level. Jake was just a middle of the pack QB who didnt like to put extra work in like other QB's. While i think Jake enjoyed playing i think he only wanted to just show up on gameday and not much else.

Originally Posted by dogfish

ryan fitzpatrick. . .

You got it wrong.....it's Fitzmagic.