Thread: Anyone else growing concerned about Chubb?

I believe Rosen is a fine prospect. This my point.

Originally Posted by Ground Control

He has been good but not great. I'm also getting the feeling that a bunch of great players are not even being good on this team. Maybe more than talent is the issue? Maybe even the greats Chubb was supposed to learn under are not being so great. Coaching, anyone? Leadership and motivation? I know I'm not positive on this issue but I know that it's been a year and a half I've been living in the same replay and with the same empty quotes from VJ and Broncos leadership. Chubb may not be what he has been touted to be but maybe this year (and this coaching staff) isn't the year to determine that? When all hell and implosion is happening again, how can we properly judge any of the players that are Broncos?

no doubt. . .chubb is a college down lineman being asked not only to adjust to the speed of the NFL, but also to learn a new position at the same time. . . on a team that doesn't employ a full-time outside linebackers coach. . . seriously, how many guys is reggie herring responsible for now? we have like 10 or 11 LBs on the roster, mostly inexperienced guys. . . how much one-on-one coaching is chubb even getting? do they have him working with kollar as well, like von is? it's cool that they brought back demarcus as a consultant, but i wish we had a permanent, every day guy there also. . . certainly couldn't hurt chubb's development. . .

most people these days have about as much patience as a five-year-old waiting while his mom tries on shoes. . .

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

I believe Rosen is a fine prospect. This my point.

I blacked out - I just assume I'm right, you're wrong, I won, you lost, and that everyone appreciates margarine.

To your and Dog's point, we might be irked at having Rosen and go "well maybe with a veteran the offense is better and the defense blah blah blah."

So I get it. I just fear that we do need a real rebuild, and if so then we literally kicked the can down the road when we had real options, a plethora of them. In that case, no pass rusher is really worth it.

so, are people ready to calm down about chubb after he had three sacks yesterday?

He got two sacks against an elite LT. He's not going to give you twenty sacks like God-tier Ware/Watt. But he's going to give you a lot of twelve sack seasons while brutalizing the run.

Cherish him.

Chubb suuuuuucks

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

I believe Rosen is a fine prospect. This my point.

Rosen fell to 10th in the draft. At that point anybody in the NFL could have moved up to draft him. The Patriots, the Steelers, the Ravens, the Giants, just to name teams that either were expected to draft a first round QB or did do so.

Teams weren't that sure of him so they passed. And drafted Lamar Jackson, Mason Rudolph and Kyle Lauletta instead.

Nobody is going to know about these QBs for a couple of years.

Originally Posted by Cugel

Rosen fell to 10th in the draft. At that point anybody in the NFL could have moved up to draft him. The Patriots, the Steelers, the Ravens, the Giants, just to name teams that either were expected to draft a first round QB or did do so.

Teams weren't that sure of him so they passed. And drafted Lamar Jackson, Mason Rudolph and Kyle Lauletta instead.

Nobody is going to know about these QBs for a couple of years.

So your contention is Rosen isn’t good because four teams with established, top-half-of-the-league QBs didn’t trade up to get him?

That seems like poor logic.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

So your contention is Rosen isn’t good because four teams with established, top-half-of-the-league QBs didn’t trade up to get him?

That seems like poor logic.

If he stays healthy, he should have a solid career. If he stays healthy and if that was a gaurantee, I would have loved for the Broncos to have drafted him. However, that is not just a small concern with him.

He was a tennis prodigy until a shoulder injury. That is TENNIS.

He was not exactly healthy at UCLA either. We are to believe he is going to remain healthy in the NFL? I am personally working under the assumption that injuries are going to be an issue with him. Then again this league has really made it impossible for QBs to get injured.

I told y’all that Chubb was legit. Smdh

Originally Posted by Jaded

I told y’all that Chubb was legit. Smdh

You are the board's best football savant, and it's not even close.

I love you.

But I will still beat your ass if you get out of line. You need some discipline.

Originally Posted by King87

You are the board's best football savant, and it's not even close.

I love you.

But I will still beat your ass if you get out of line. You need some discipline.

I love you too, sizzle-chest.

Btw ... Parastiff is galactically overrated, change my mind.

Originally Posted by Jaded

I love you too, sizzle-chest.

Btw ... Parastiff is galactically overrated, change my mind.

He plays well with bad players around him. If you don't like that avenue of discussion, here's another one.

He's not known by many media members, even this board barely talks about him, and he's at least an above average player. It's hard for him to be overrated.

Originally Posted by King87

He plays well with bad players around him. If you don't like that avenue of discussion, here's another one.

He's not known by many media members, even this board barely talks about him, and he's at least an above average player. It's hard for him to be overrated.

Ok, he’s galactically overrated by people who talk about him, change my mind.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Ok, he’s galactically overrated by people who talk about him, change my mind.

Well, by just about any metric he grades out well. And, to be honest, those who are detractors on Paradis haven't really produced anything to the contrary. There aren't ten centers better than he - probably not five.

There's a certain point where if almost everyone and every metric says one thing, and there's nothing much on the other side, then what do you do?

He's a really good player.