Thread: Film Room

So I’m seeing him at about 4 yards past the LOS, engaging a defender. By rule they’re allowed to be 3 yards downfield as long as they’re engaged. At 4 yards he’s in a gray area and although a flag could be thrown, it’s close enough that not throwing it could be justified. I would guess that the LJ won’t even be dinged for that since it’s so close.

Spike just kicked Mo in his midget ovaries.

I love spike.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

The crosser he threw to Sanders/Earl Thomas baffled me at the time...how did they trick him?

That was the only pick that bugged me. There had to be more to it than just brainfart.

mike pritchard was talking about it on 104.3. . . something along the lines of the hawks were playing zone, but they showed man before the snap. . . he said case read it as zone and expected DT to adjust his route, but DT read it as man and didn't adjust the route. . . or maybe i have that backwards, but essentially the hawks caused a miscommunication by disguising their coverage pre-snap and fooling one of the two. . .

Originally Posted by dogfish

mike pritchard was talking about it on 104.3. . . something along the lines of the hawks were playing zone, but they showed man before the snap. . . he said case read it as zone and expected DT to adjust his route, but DT read it as man and didn't adjust the route. . . or maybe i have that backwards, but essentially the hawks caused a miscommunication by disguising their coverage pre-snap and fooling one of the two. . .

I'll defer to the guy who played...but I don't see them showing anything other than the Cover 3 they showed on almost every play I've watched so far.

Watching a little of the Raiders.

Suh’s move to Phillips 3-4 reminds me of Warren Sapp’s move to the 3-4 and out of that 4-3 over/under, Tampa Two when he went to the Raiders and became a non factor. Suh was being moved off the ball and was a complete non factor against the Raiders, at least in the first half.

Love this play from the Rams. Line up 5-wide with Gurley as the X. He sells the lazy motion and the Raiders don't react at all, shows their zone.





The offensive line blocks like a screen, anticipating the hard rush with 5-wide and then being able to get to the second level and essentially reducing the blocking burden from 10 vs. 11 to 10 vs. 7. Then, Gurley is pretty decent.

Keep up threads like this and you may pass Peter Dinklage as my favorite little person.



Nice work Mo!

In this week's chalk talk, former pro bowl tackle Lincoln Kennedy breaks down the different ways the Broncos like to get receiver Emmanuel Sanders open in space.
https://www.raiders.com/video/chalk-...manuel-sanders

Originally Posted by Jsteve01

Thanks for doing this Mo. Be forewarned. Joe doesnt like the term film.

Dude, do not use the F-I-L-M word around here or we'll have to hear some complaints from him.

Broncos played a lot of 2-4-5 early against Oakland and it bit them on the butt on the first drive, but looked fine on the second drive. Peko and Harris both got moved off the ball on key runs for the Raiders, and three guys got sucked in to the Spider 2Y Banana bullshit (seriously, it's just a waggle) on a big pass play on the first drive. The front two were better on the second drive and forced a three-and-out.

Peko made up for it on the third drive by sniffing out the play action on a fake end-around on the third drive. Shaquil Barrett made a nice play in the run game that I forgot about on first down.

That was against Kolton Miller, the Raider's first round pick.

Marty Mornhinweg is in his third year with the Ravens, and I'm not seeing much of an identity to his offense. Flacco's best attribute is that giant arm, so they're running a lot of slow-developing deep passes (Coryell) with a bad offensive line, but still trying to run some West Coast stuff and incorporate what Andy Reid and Sean McVey are both doing (Lamar Jackson as a wildcat, which makes little sense to me because he has plenty of passing ability...IMO, either play him or don't, don't try to run gimmick shit, which Flacco isn't buying into anyway). It looks like a mess, to be honest. Hopefully our defense can take advantage.

Honestly, scrolling through their offensive plays against the Bengals, I don't see anything that stands out, scheme wise, that should beat the Broncos. The big games were either back-foot heaves by Flacco or dump offs to running backs who found space. Denver's defensive backs should match up just fine with the Ravens wide receivers, and so I started looking for tight end targets that might hurt the Broncos and don't see much.

Here's a play that stood out a little, third quarter, 2nd down and 4, 17-yard pass to Nick Boyle. There's nothing schemed here that beats the Bengals, though:

Cincinnati looks to be in a clear 3-deep zone and just relying on a four-man rush to get to Flacco.


Geno Atkins destroys Marshal Yanda, and Andrew Billings is even getting pressure on a double team.



Flacco, shakes all that off and gets the ball out for the gain, but Cincinnati should have had a sack here. They had the Ravens beat.

The interior of that line looked pretty bad against Cincinnati, which puts an onus on Peko, Wolfe and Harris to do the same.

If I were Mr. Woods, I'd think about putting Chubb inside against Yanda and daring the Ravens to run, knowing he could destroy him on pass rush. They aren't the same power-running team we're used to.

(Caveat, they were clearing trailing after Green's big first half there)

I like Keenum’s pocket presence and that he doesn’t panic and back out of the pocket. The Broncos ran a variation of the same play on the first play from scrimmage in each half. First half it was a ace, four-wide tight set, with the tight end motioning into a trips formation. Didn’t do much, just a few yards for Freeman off-guard to the left.

Second half, same formation, the waggle isn’t there, but Keenum steps up and Sanders finds some space and comes back to the ball:

I like Keenum’s pocket presence and that he doesn’t panic and back out of the pocket. The Broncos ran a variation of the same play on the first play from scrimmage in each half. First half it was a ace, four-wide tight set, with the tight end motioning into a trips formation. Didn’t do much, just a few yards for Freeman off-guard to the left.

Second half, same formation, the waggle isn’t there, but Keenum steps up and Sanders finds some space and comes back to the ball: