Thread: Broncos using STRIVR?

Get your shit together Hawg!!!!

So, the pats and the broncos, may, or may not, be using an enhanced VR platform that may, or may not, increase their performance?

Capisce?

Also, I was told there would be no math. Ever.

Originally Posted by aberdien

Get your shit together Hawg!!!!

Yeah Hawg!

Some of you guys are really on that Shaw bandwagon.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

It is possible that a team doesn't share all information with the public. No point in telling everyone you are holding pocket kings. Sometimes you tell them you are holding pocket kings when you have pocket aces. Maybe the Pats use it, maybe they don't. There are things called NDAs that billion dollar entities use to maintain information security.

Maybe they like Sundquist's toys...Sundquist seems to think he's got the goods even though it's computer generated and the human performance labs dudes at Stanford think that's a no-no. Maybe STRIVR. Maybe something else. Maybe nothing.

I find meaning in the fact that the last two quarterbacks the Broncos have acquired for their roster are VR experts who obsess over perfecting their craft through its use. There have been many other options. There is a math equation in there and when you work it out there is information.

“ back and to the left” back and to the left”

So the starting Denver Broncos QB used it to improve his game. Broncos boss and legend John Elway watched it used at a combine along with the newest Broncos QB. And it was invented by a former Broncos GM.

But hey. What does this have to do with the Broncos?

The BSN podcast guys asked VJ directly If the broncos used it now b/c case used in in Minny and he said no. He could be lying or it could be a conspiracy. But asked and addressed by HC of the broncos.

Originally Posted by nevcraw

The BSN podcast guys asked VJ directly If the broncos used it now b/c case used in in Minny and he said no. He could be lying or it could be a conspiracy. But asked and addressed by HC of the broncos.

THIS is what I was afraid of.

When Keenum's performance drops spectacularly this season, the coaching staff/organization can certainly take some of the blame for not supplying the best tools.

Originally Posted by NightTrainLayne

THIS is what I was afraid of.

When Keenum's performance drops spectacularly this season, the coaching staff/organization can certainly take some of the blame for not supplying the best tools.

This organization/staff is too enlightened for such a misstep. Right?

Nevcraw, thanks for bringing that interview back to the front. It's puzzling.

I mean, it really is. How is it possible you hire two QBs whose excellence seems strongly linked to extra mental reps, then ignore that?

I was in a dark place in 2017 with leadership. I'm not ready to go back there this early in the season.

So....lalalalalalala

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Maybe everyone gets how useful this is, but maybe not. So I'll share a story.

The hardest part of pilot training for most is the Instrument phase, about 7-8 months into the gig. The gist of it is that you have to maintain heading, altitude, airspeed and you are in a black box. There is no autopilot. The aircraft naturally drifts away from the desired heading, altitude, and airspeed just like a boat in open water. So you have to be ultra hyper vigilant and constantly check your attitude indicator and all these other indicators for the first sign of deviation. Then you add layers on top of that. You have to make precise radio calls at precise times. You have to set your navigation system and radio the right way. Sometimes you'll get interrupted in the middle of a task with something more important.

You get the idea, it's pretty easy to get blindsided with all the crap you have to process. When my dad came out for graduation, he crashed the thing in fifteen seconds.

Reason for the analogy: I was motivated to do well. Really, I wanted complete perfection lol. My goal was a zero-downgrade checkride, a remarkable thing for the Instrument phase.

So what did I do? Spent hours upon hours getting mental reps in the simulator. Cranked up the turbulence and variability factors. Went ham!

The checkride went great, and the phase as a whole was one of my better ones. Our class as a whole got crushed during that phase for external reasons (one of our classmates reported an instructor and student for cheating, but it was a longstanding practice that was condoned, but after my buddy's 12 page manifesto on the moral ills of pilot training we were in deep shit).

For anyone with a natural desire to compete and win the use of best technology to simulate the mental processes that will best *hard tested* on gameday, this seems like a must to me. So much of Manning's greatness was anticipation, and so much of that skill was just drilling, drilling, drilling until it's a background process.

And if you can't get 21 guys together to get all the nuance and visual detail from the real thing, why not simulate it?

To me, bringing in Keenum and Hogan signals a revival of that Manning-style focus on putting in the reps. Would we like the QBs with the physical tools we associate with the elite ones? Hell yea. But until then, at least we can demand they have that fast-twitch mental process and anticipation, and it looks like that's the direction the Broncos have gone.

I'm stoked and optimistic about the franchise.

I high fived this way earlier in the day but I wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed reading this post, Hawg. I would love to get a beer and listen to more stories one of these days.

Fire Vance Joseph.

The question with these things is always "does it really help? Or just make you think it helps?"

I remember years ago Saints players wearing custom mouthpieces that were supossed to somehow make them stronger and faster.... years before that it was the balance bracelets...

VR is the popular thing right now, so it's only logical that NFL players would gravitate towards that in a never ending effort to try to get an edge over the other players. Keenum swears by it, just like the Saints players swore by their silly mouth pieces, so who knows.

Would strapping on a VR headset really benefit more than just watching film and actual real practice reps? I don't know, maybe.... maybe not.

I would think VR would be more effective than a bracelet. But maybe I'm delusional.

Originally Posted by Mike Hawk

The question with these things is always "does it really help? Or just make you think it helps?"

I remember years ago Saints players wearing custom mouthpieces that were supossed to somehow make them stronger and faster.... years before that it was the balance bracelets...

VR is the popular thing right now, so it's only logical that NFL players would gravitate towards that in a never ending effort to try to get an edge over the other players. Keenum swears by it, just like the Saints players swore by their silly mouth pieces, so who knows.

Would strapping on a VR headset really benefit more than just watching film and actual real practice reps? I don't know, maybe.... maybe not.

I don't think the two situations are comparable. The VR is going to have an impact on their mental reps. Watching film is great, you can see how things played out in a specific situation. In VR, you actually have to make decisions which helps the QB's decision making process in an actual game situation.

A lot of people learn by doing not by watching. There is only so much you can learn from watching film and you this doesn't take away from actual real practice reps, it is in substitute to it. I think it is something that genuinely would be beneficial unlike some silly mouthpiece or bracelet,

Originally Posted by Freyaka

I don't think the two situations are comparable. The VR is going to have an impact on their mental reps. Watching film is great, you can see how things played out in a specific situation. In VR, you actually have to make decisions which helps the QB's decision making process in an actual game situation.

A lot of people learn by doing not by watching. There is only so much you can learn from watching film and you this doesn't take away from actual real practice reps, it is in substitute to it. I think it is something that genuinely would be beneficial unlike some silly mouthpiece or bracelet,

I agree... but if you were a coach, and you only had limited amount of practice time, how much time would you dedicate to this? I would probably tell my QBs this is something they need to work with in their own time as the practice time we're allowed is already filled.