Let's hope it isn't Vance Joseph's permanent motto.Quote Originally Posted by slim View Post
I thought last season's motto was "no winning"?
Things are not going in a good direction right now. The pass defense is looking a lot worse without Talib, Joe Woods isn't great compared with Wade, the first team offense still can't tie their own shoes, and Vance isn't a great head coach. RT is not looking great. For the fifth year in a row, they are basically hoping that re-treads can shore up their T situation and so far it's not happening.
And we don't have a QB like Peyton who can bail out a bunch of stiffs. Case is basically Kyle Orton. If everyone around him is great, and the coaching is great, then he can have good success. If not, then he will struggle.