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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    An eight team playoff would lead to people arguing that other teams got snubbed. BUT! It would at least let us fill the bracket with deserving one loss teams.
    I’d rather have team 5 pissed off than team 3. Moreso, I’d rather have team 9 pissed off than team 5. And even more than that, I’d rather have team 17 pissed off than team 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    That’s a terrible point and I hate when it’s made. If you don’t want Northwestern in the playoff, beat them! Make the regular season mean something. If you can’t win your conference there’s no way they should be in a four team playoff, and if you expand to 8 or 16, conference champs deserve to be there, regardless of record.
    Why is it terrible to have the best teams get in and not reward someone who is only in because the conference they are in? By putting the best teams in you are making the regular season mean something because the best teams are getting it. The regular season meaning something isn't tied conferences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    Why is it terrible to have the best teams get in and not reward someone who is only in because the conference they are in? By putting the best teams in you are making the regular season mean something because the best teams are getting it. The regular season meaning something isn't tied conferences.
    Then why do we even have conferences?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    Then why do we even have conferences?
    For a basic organizational structure. Logistical purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    That’s a terrible point and I hate when it’s made. If you don’t want Northwestern in the playoff, beat them! Make the regular season mean something. If you can’t win your conference there’s no way they should be in a four team playoff, and if you expand to 8 or 16, conference champs deserve to be there, regardless of record.
    Letting conference champs in would make the regular season meaningless if you can lose 4 games in the regular season and still get in because you were in a bad division and had one fluke win. I think they should get rid of conference title games, give the 5 regular season champs auto bids, and use that extra week for the extra playoff round. That makes every regular season game EXTREMELY important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    For a basic organizational structure. Logistical purposes.
    If they are a must for organization they are a must for playoff structure if it expands. Win your conference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    If they are a must for organization they are a must for playoff structure if it expands. Win your conference.
    Why does that logic follow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    Letting conference champs in would make the regular season meaningless if you can lose 4 games in the regular season and still get in because you were in a bad division and had one fluke win. I think they should get rid of conference title games, give the 5 regular season champs auto bids, and use that extra week for the extra playoff round. That makes every regular season game EXTREMELY important.
    I’m Ok with that. But if we insist that we have five power conferences, you let the conference decide how it wants to determine its champion, and that champion, regardless of who it is must be in any expanded playoff. Otherwise, conferences are meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    Why is it terrible to have the best teams get in and not reward someone who is only in because the conference they are in? By putting the best teams in you are making the regular season mean something because the best teams are getting it. The regular season meaning something isn't tied conferences.
    The only other option would be to combine those conferences with other big ones. So then teams like North Texas would be forced to play in a division with either OSU or LSU which then would mean they would never sniff the playoffs because of the lack of talent that they get versus the other teams. Teams like UCF or North Texas are nice stories but when you start to pit them against the big dogs they fall short so i agree with the notion simply adding them because they won their conference is not a very good one because year in, year out they dont play anybody and if they do they generally lose big. At least by combining them you at least force them to HAVE to play some big dogs to prove their worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    Why does that logic follow?
    Why does it follow? Because the coalition determining these bowls is made up of conferences, therefore conferences are clearly needed and a conference championship means something to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    Why does it follow? Because the coalition determining these bowls is made up of conferences, therefore conferences are clearly needed and a conference championship means something to that.
    Could we not argue that we'd just keep that structure now for ease and rivalries while also focusing on the best teams making it? A true meritocracy is what we are shooting for, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    Could we not argue that we'd just keep that structure now for ease and rivalries while also focusing on the best teams making it? A true meritocracy is what we are shooting for, no?
    A true meritocracy includes winning your conference, so I guess I wouldn't disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    A true meritocracy includes winning your conference, so I guess I wouldn't disagree.
    I don't think that works. It feels like the argument is winning your conference means you won it so you're good. But that's not really true and we see it today.

    Out with the old, fam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    I don't think that works. It feels like the argument is winning your conference means you won it so you're good. But that's not really true and we see it today.

    Out with the old, fam.
    I think if you expand the playoffs, you rid the world of conference championship games, rendering your fears moot, anyway. The fear of Northwestern being in the playoff, which I believe is a dumb fear but nevertheless a fear of some, is based on the current conference structure where championship games are played. That's negated if you expand the playoffs and eliminate championship games. I think this is a fair compromise and better than rendering conference achievement meaningless in an expanded playoff when it should become more meaningful because the field of teams is expanding.

    As someone who just doesn't want to see the same four teams every year, I WANT to see Northwestern or Utah or Pitt get in. It's exactly what makes college basketball so great and the end of the college football season so bland.
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    Yeah I think you pretty much have to get rid of conference title games for auto bids to work. At least in an 8 team field. If you go to 16 you could probably get away with conference title games, but I'd still just as soon see them go.

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