16. All conference champs and five at large. Make the regular season mean something, contrary to what they always tell us.
I don't think 5 group of 5 teams need to be in the playoffs. Then you just get a week of shitty games in the first round. Expanding to 8 still gives your deserving league of 5 teams like UCF a chance without doing something pointless like putting in a MAC or Sun Belt team that will lose by 40 to Alabama in the first round. I wouldn't even mind 16, but no way I want 5 of those teams being shitty teams who will get killed in the first round. And before you bring up the basketball argument, it's totally different. Any team can get hot from 3 and pull an upset or even string together a few wins in the tournament. Given the difference in size and speed of the teams like Bama and Clemson and even the best team in the Sun Belt, it would be nearly impossible to ever see an upset in those games.
Big 5 plus 3 at large.
Well, ND usually plays a harder schedule and at least went through a murderer's row. UFC is riding the wave of 'we've never been given a shot' but ND rides the wave of "we are given shots' and usually do well.
I honestly wish ND would have played UCF because that's a game the Golden Domers win.
I'm not mad at the point, though. There is something to be said for "Well, Georgia would probably have won other conferences." But to me, we've also seen those SEC powerhouses get in with one loss because of where they play. It just cuts both ways sometimes.
In defense of OU, OU is thought to be good enough to contend with anyone. And, they've beaten some great teams in the past few years. I think, and this might be someone who is new to caring about the sport again, that whether we admit it or not, we look to prior years, too. That's how Alabama got in with one loss, which goes back to the SEC getting teams in because it's the SEC.
https://247sports.com/Article/Colleg...our-125740392/
FiveThirtyEight's updated algorithm, following Saturday's conference championship game results, is predicting the Fighting Irish will be left out of the final four in favor of one-loss Oklahoma and Ohio State, two teams who impressed during the final weekend with double-digit wins over nationally-ranked opponents.
Based on selection committee protocol and "championships won" being a separation method when teams are grouped in a cluster, the Irish (12-0) not playing on the season's final weekend will be detrimental to Notre Dame's Playoff bid, the algorithm suggests.
As it stands, Notre Dame has a 62 percent to reach the Playoff, according to FiveThirtyEight's algorithm while fifth and sixth-ranked Oklahoma and Ohio State come in at 72 percent and 66 percent, respectfully.
Dont get me wrong, i think ND deserves to be in the playoffs i just hate the fact that Georgia, OU, and OSU (and even UCF) get snubbed. I just hate the argument that ND is undefeated means they automatically belong when UCF doesnt even get a consideration for the same reasoning. I know the playoff system will never be perfect and i know we generally have the same discussions every year but i do think at least moving to 8 teams before having a drop off (as Wave pointed out) seems like a reasonable option.
I think the logic is that one of those two get in.
Alabama and Clemson have to get in. Past that it be what it be.
Georgia is not sympathetic, though.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...es-challenges/
The reason Georgia ranks so low has to do with factors the Dawgs have some control over, and some they don't. The nonconference slate isn't special. There's the rivalry game with Georgia Tech as well as games against Austin Peay, Middle Tennessee and UMass. That's not all that different from most other SEC teams, but Georgia gets dragged down by playing in the East and not having Georgia on its schedule to boost its SOS. Still, they will have to face both LSU and Auburn out of the West, so it's important to remember that all of these rankings are relative. If Georgia is in the SEC title game again this year, it's going to have a playoff case.
So, for the 'Dawgs, they have a softer schedule this year and choke away a win against Alabama?
Georgia over ND is ******y I shall not abide by!
I used to be on board with this but I heard a compelling argument the other day why an 8 team playoff with 5 auto bids for the conference champs is a bad idea. You would have things like a shitty northwestern team that was in a bad division with a shot to upset Ohio State and make the playoffs. Then you have a team that isn't even close to being one of the 8 best teams getting into the playoffs. I think they would have to extend it to 16 before I would be comfortable with giving conference champs auto bids. Then you still have plenty of room for every decent 1 and 2 loss team to get an at large bid.
That’s a terrible point and I hate when it’s made. If you don’t want Northwestern in the playoff, beat them! Make the regular season mean something. If you can’t win your conference there’s no way they should be in a four team playoff, and if you expand to 8 or 16, conference champs deserve to be there, regardless of record.
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