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    I like Sutton's potential, but I'm betting Hamilton out-produces him sooner.

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    I'm giddy about both of em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsteve01 View Post
    He's not as explosive as Demaryius is athletically. You know honestly the thing I like about both the receivers that we drafted is that they are not your typical Divas. I am so tired of watching guys turn into whiny little babies and me first players when they get in the NFL. I really truly believe Sutton and Hamilton are High character guys. The analogy for me would be a poor man's AJ Green. AJ is a plus athlete but he's not as athletic as a Calvin Johnson or Demaryius Thomas.
    You had me until you said Green wasn’t as athletic as CJ and DT.
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    so, are we talking more kelvin benjamin than a young DT, or does he have some wheels for a big guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    so, are we talking more kelvin benjamin than a young DT, or does he have some wheels for a big guy?
    He reminds me of Alshon Jeffery, but faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    You had me until you said Green wasn’t as athletic as CJ and DT.
    He should have opened with a "hello". Then he could have had you at hello.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
    I like Sutton's potential, but I'm betting Hamilton out-produces him sooner.
    That's a possibility because Hamilton fits in the slot. Sutton will have to spell the outside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jsteve01 View Post
    He's not as explosive as Demaryius is athletically. You know honestly the thing I like about both the receivers that we drafted is that they are not your typical Divas. I am so tired of watching guys turn into whiny little babies and me first players when they get in the NFL. I really truly believe Sutton and Hamilton are High character guys. The analogy for me would be a poor man's AJ Green. AJ is a plus athlete but he's not as athletic as a Calvin Johnson or Demaryius Thomas.
    You had me until you said Green wasn’t as athletic as CJ and DT.
    He isnt as twitchy as they are. Never had their speed or explosion. Im not saying he isnt a very good athlete, but he never sniffed low 4.4s or 4.3s and he doesnt jump like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsteve01 View Post
    He isnt as twitchy as they are. Never had their speed or explosion. Im not saying he isnt a very good athlete, but he never sniffed low 4.4s or 4.3s and he doesnt jump like them.
    AJ Green? The Bengals WR?

    Ran 4.48 with 6.9 3-cone and 35” vertical. 10/20 yard splits were in their range too.

    Nobody is in CJ league, now that you mention it. I guess my argument is relative to DT alone, and he didn’t do any testing (neither did CJ, for that matter, he did vertical and 40).
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    Quote Originally Posted by topscribe View Post
    That's a possibility because Hamilton fits in the slot. Sutton will have to spell the outside.
    Hamilton is also a much more polished route runner with more consistent hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    AJ Green? The Bengals WR?

    Ran 4.48 with 6.9 3-cone and 35” vertical. 10/20 yard splits were in their range too.

    Nobody is in CJ league, now that you mention it. I guess my argument is relative to DT alone, and he didn’t do any testing (neither did CJ, for that matter, he did vertical and 40).
    He had a good forty time, not a great one - coming out of college his strength was route running, and deep ball playmaking (he jumped fine, not as well as other WRs). I always felt bad for him because he was saddled with Dalton. Average QB's are such a burden, man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
    I like Sutton's potential, but I'm betting Hamilton out-produces him sooner.

    Yeah, thats probable.....Hamilton is a stud in the slot.

    If Sutton plays out like Marshall did, year 2 is the breakout. However, I hope he becomes a redzone matchup for us sooner rather than later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARHORSE View Post
    Yeah, thats probable.....Hamilton is a stud in the slot.

    If Sutton plays out like Marshall did, year 2 is the breakout. However, I hope he becomes a redzone matchup for us sooner rather than later.
    At worst, he "should" certainly be a better option than Latimer or Fowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
    At worst, he "should" certainly be a better option than Latimer or Fowler.
    At the VERY least. I expect Sutton to take a year to figure out the NFL, but that's why they drafted him a year before they truly need him. I'm with Coach, I expect Hamilton to have a better chance immediately because he's a slot guy who can cut glass with the sharpness of his routes already. That makes him perfect for rub routes, picks, and timing patterns - he would have made so much money as a Peyton Manning receiver, since Manning would always know exactly where Hamilton was going to be. Hopefully Keenum can do the same.

    But Sutton should be a good one. I'm not sold that he'll be a great one, but I guess that depends on what you consider great and how he grows into his career. He strikes me as a tremendous #2 receiver. I think NFL.com (or one of the draft sites) brought up Muhsin Muhammad, which strikes me as a good upside comp. He can be a #1, but he's not now and he'd have to be able to handle double teams (or even draw them) to earn that moniker in the NFL. That said, guys like Rod Smith and Muhammad were great players (both over 800 catches and 10,000 yards) who weren't necessarily thought of as #1 receivers for large chunks of their careers, and I would be delighted for Courtland to wind up with a career like that.

    My excitement level for Sutton isn't off-the-charts, but I think he'll be a great piece and I'm looking forward to seeing him in a Broncos uni ASAP. At first blush, the Broncos got really good people who are also very talented and should have long careers in the league. Having Sutton and Hamilton understudy Denver's current wideouts can only help them going forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G_Money View Post
    At the VERY least. I expect Sutton to take a year to figure out the NFL, but that's why they drafted him a year before they truly need him. I'm with Coach, I expect Hamilton to have a better chance immediately because he's a slot guy who can cut glass with the sharpness of his routes already. That makes him perfect for rub routes, picks, and timing patterns - he would have made so much money as a Peyton Manning receiver, since Manning would always know exactly where Hamilton was going to be. Hopefully Keenum can do the same.

    But Sutton should be a good one. I'm not sold that he'll be a great one, but I guess that depends on what you consider great and how he grows into his career. He strikes me as a tremendous #2 receiver. I think NFL.com (or one of the draft sites) brought up Muhsin Muhammad, which strikes me as a good upside comp. He can be a #1, but he's not now and he'd have to be able to handle double teams (or even draw them) to earn that moniker in the NFL. That said, guys like Rod Smith and Muhammad were great players (both over 800 catches and 10,000 yards) who weren't necessarily thought of as #1 receivers for large chunks of their careers, and I would be delighted for Courtland to wind up with a career like that.

    My excitement level for Sutton isn't off-the-charts, but I think he'll be a great piece and I'm looking forward to seeing him in a Broncos uni ASAP. At first blush, the Broncos got really good people who are also very talented and should have long careers in the league. Having Sutton and Hamilton understudy Denver's current wideouts can only help them going forward.
    I'll agree with this while also preferring we drafted Anthony Miller or Christian Kirk at that spot. Maybe Kirk a little less with the knowledge we drafted Hamilton later.

    Neither Kirk or Miller are the big receiver that Sutton is, but I think from a productivity perspective, both could potentially be better. But again...I'm good with the Sutton pick and what he could potentially become. Muhammad and Jeffrey are probably pretty good comps for him.

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