Thread: Bradley Chubb, Denver Bronco

Originally Posted by Broncoknight30

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Your inability to rebut anything or make a decent argument is astounding. All you do is spew conclusions.

Originally Posted by Broncoknight30

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Actually, King is a very intelligent individual.

Originally Posted by King87

Your inability to rebut anything or make a decent argument is astounding. All you do is spew conclusions.

I have rebut everything. I stated the facts. There has not been ONE team that did NOT have an elite defense that won the SB. You have showed little.

Tom Brady is essentially irrelevant to the discussion anyway, since he is in fact the 17th highest paid QB.

Its hilarious how Broncos need to be told this.

Originally Posted by Nomad

Actually, King is a very intelligent individual.

Actually, ignorance doesn't necessarily have anything to do with intelligence.

Originally Posted by Nomad

Actually, King is a very intelligent individual.

Not about what it takes to win the championship. Not if anyone thinks it is going to take some high priced overrated QB. Not if you cannot see that no QB can do that, considering that Rodgers cannot do it, Brees cannot do it, Andrew Luck cannot do it, and Brady could not do it until the Pats defense was greatly improved.

Peyton Manning could not do it in 2013, but he did in 2015 behind the number one defense.

He pointed out how certain defenses did in the SB, and I pointed out that does not necessarily mean anything. For instance last year with the Eagles. They had an elite defense that held the Falcons to 10 points and Vikings to 7 points. If that elite defense does not make a key stop against the Falcons, they do not even play in the SB.

The simple fact is Rodgers has not won it since 2010 and they had the #2 defense in the NFL. Have not been the same AFTER paying him top dollar and they never make it to the SB.

The simple fact is Brees has been about as productive as any QB in history since they won the SB in 2009, and they have trouble making it to the playoffs. All due an historically bad defense and much of that is because of Brees's salary.

Would it be great to have a QB like Brady? Sure, that production for that price? You bet. In case you wanted to know the real advantage of the Pats. It is that. It is that production for that price. Their defenses during the 10 years they did not win it (2004-2014) their defense was ranked very low. All of a sudden Brady restructures his contract and they sign key players. Their defense is ranked in the top 10 for the first time in years in 2014, and they win it on a defensive play.

They also had the number one ranked defense (points) in 2016. They win it again.

We all have the prime example and you all still question this, and then say i have not rebut the debate?

The Broncos SB50 model is rare, not sure how that’s debatable.

Honestly....I didn't read the debate. It was my drive by 'hottake'. Anyway, carry on.

Originally Posted by Broncoknight30

You have actually heard a person say potahto before?

You people are still actually thinking this team should have drafted one of those crap QBs or pay Cousins 30 mil per year?

I also think it is funny how so many fans think having an overpriced "FRANCHISE QB" is faaar more imprtant than having a great defense.

Even though the evidence is overwhelmingly contradictory to that fallacy.

Let us know how many SB champions won a SB with an average defense.

Potahto? I have never heard that, and I have been to England several times.

Cool story, Cliff Clavin.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Cool story, Cliff Clavin.

Check out my Cliff Clavin quote in the "Things that Rock" thread.

Originally Posted by Nomad

Honestly....I didn't read the debate. It was my drive by 'hottake'. Anyway, carry on.

Me too. I don't know what's going on here. I just posted my hottake to your hottake.

Originally Posted by topscribe

Me too. I don't know what's going on here. I just posted my hottake to your hottake.

That's why we love you, top!!

Originally Posted by Jaded

The Broncos SB50 model is rare, not sure how that’s debatable.

I am sick and tired of this shit. Read the facts. It is quite typical for teams that have the best defenses or solid defenses that actually win it. That is pretty much the case with every SB, including most of the recent ones.

Want me to actually repeat it again?

The simple fact is Rodgers has not won it since 2010 and they had the #2 defense in the NFL. Have not been the same AFTER paying him top dollar and they never make it to the SB.

The simple fact is Brees has been about as productive as any QB in history since they won the SB in 2009, and they have trouble making it to the playoffs. All due an historically bad defense and much of that is because of Brees's salary.

Would it be great to have a QB like Brady? Sure, that production for that price? You bet. In case you wanted to know the real advantage of the Pats. It is that. It is that production for that price. Their defenses during the 10 years they did not win it (2004-2014) their defense was ranked very low. All of a sudden Brady restructures his contract and they sign key players. Their defense is ranked in the top 10 for the first time in years in 2014, and they win it on a defensive play.

They also had the number one ranked defense (points) in 2016. They win it again.

Originally Posted by Broncoknight30

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Whaaaaaaat?

Was it something I said?

Tell ya what, show me all the SB champions built around a marginal talent like Keesum, and then contrast that to all the SB champions built around the Likes of TB12, Rodgers, Rapist, Manning, Wilson, et al.

Originally Posted by Broncoknight30

I am sick and tired of this shit. Read the facts. It is quite typical for teams that have the best defenses or solid defenses that actually win it. That is pretty much the case with every SB, including most of the recent ones.

Want me to actually repeat it again?

The simple fact is Rodgers has not won it since 2010 and they had the #2 defense in the NFL. Have not been the same AFTER paying him top dollar and they never make it to the SB.

The simple fact is Brees has been about as productive as any QB in history since they won the SB in 2009, and they have trouble making it to the playoffs. All due an historically bad defense and much of that is because of Brees's salary.

Would it be great to have a QB like Brady? Sure, that production for that price? You bet. In case you wanted to know the real advantage of the Pats. It is that. It is that production for that price. Their defenses during the 10 years they did not win it (2004-2014) their defense was ranked very low. All of a sudden Brady restructures his contract and they sign key players. Their defense is ranked in the top 10 for the first time in years in 2014, and they win it on a defensive play.

They also had the number one ranked defense (points) in 2016. They win it again.

Tl dr;

Originally Posted by Jaded

Whaaaaaaat?

Was it something I said?

Tell ya what, show me all the SB champions built around a marginal talent like Keesum, and then contrast that to all the SB champions built around the Likes of TB12, Rodgers, Rapist, Manning, Wilson, et al.

Not repeating myself since you are not going to read it anyway.