Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!
I remember getting into an argument over passer ratings back in the day, my point was they’re mostly stupid because of the way people present the passer ratings they tell us that LaDanian Tomlinson and David Garrard are better QB’s than PFM, Brett Farve and Tony Romo.
I’m just going to go ahead and assume that deep down inside everyone knows Case Keenum isn’t the best QB in the league under any circumstances, as his passer rating suggests.
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
“ . . . Picture a cup in the middle of the sea”
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
They have efficiency ratings in them that boost game managers. A 100 rating from a big game via Brady or Manning gets matched by someone whose a game manager, and it's absurd. To then take that absurd number, ignore that the types of WRs the Vikings have are going to excel in short yardage situations and go 'see how good he is in pressure' without that context is also absurd. We've gotten to the point where we just cherry pick stats and go "see, this guy is good," and ignore everything else.
Some people look at stats to answer a question, and others go in looking to justify something they WANT to be true.
If you're referring to me, I haven't said much about passer ratings. I talked about quarterback
ratings. May I refer you to Post #51 in this thread.
But I talked about much more than just that. The post I went to all the trouble to write that
you said you didn't bother to read demonstrates that.
Though He slay me, I will trust in Him . . . (Job 13:15)
I’m sorry that you think passer ratings vs QB ratings makes a damn bit of difference.
They’re useful, not a Ranking.
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
“ . . . Picture a cup in the middle of the sea”
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
6 pages and counting about how the offense that y’all love to hate is now, not only allowed, but celebrated.
When it’s necessary because of a proven Championship OC/HC the philosophy is dated and the game has passed him by ... but when you’re trying to justify the CK hype to yourself it becomes “I can not believe a Broncos fan would dare to doubt this great QB before he’s ever thrown a football”.
Coolbeans, I’m not a fan. Point taken.
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
“ . . . Picture a cup in the middle of the sea”
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
Speaking for myself, I never once proclaimed Keenum as a "great quarterback," and I never
made any predictions. All I did was to say, in effect, "hey, there's hope for this guy," and
produce some facts and figures and history to show why I felt that way.
It's okay to have doubts. I have a few of my own, believe it or not. Only performance on the
field can assuage those doubts. But I'm not ready to pronounce him a scrub until he proves
he's a scrub, and he hasn't proven it yet. Once he does, I'll say, "Yes, he's a scrub." Until then,
I'll present the optimistic side since nearly all the rest being presented here is negative.
There are some cons, but why should I point them out when you already have ad nauseam?
Meanwhile, I have taken a fusillade of shots for trying to be positive. That's okay. I'm a big boy.
I can take it. Besides, I'm pretty good at giving it back.
Though He slay me, I will trust in Him . . . (Job 13:15)
“Case Keenum is the Franchise QB Denver has been looking for”— Top
That’s a prediction.
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
“ . . . Picture a cup in the middle of the sea”
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
I highly doubt that you will provide the link because you know you tore that out of context.
What I said was that IF Keenum continues the same kind of performance he put in last year,
then we have a franchise quarterback. So if you call that a prediction, it's a heavily qualified
one.
Though He slay me, I will trust in Him . . . (Job 13:15)
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
“ . . . Picture a cup in the middle of the sea”
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
What Top said is conditioned based, he never said that Keenum is the franchise quarterback that Denver is looking for. His premise seems to be that if Keenum puts up numbers similar to last season then Denver has their franchise quarterback. I disagree with his premise because I don't think those are not kind of numbers for from a franchise quarterback.
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