Thread: Draft Buzz: Denver and Other Teams

Originally Posted by chazoe60

I'm not pouting over Talib, I just think building a team that way is extremely dumb. If we traded talib because Roby has matured enough to be the man then let him be the man. Spending a high draft pick to replace what we already have/had pisses me off.

What I have against that projected pick is that Ward is 5'10". The Broncos would be spending
a premium pick to expand the stable of short CBs. Then these teams come to town with their
big receivers and have a field day. I may be wrong, but that's what I envision in my relatively
uninformed state.

Originally Posted by Jaded

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...t-team-by-team

Denver Broncos

Round 1 (12) Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
Round 1 (22) Marcus Davenport, Edge, UTSA
Round 2 (40) D.J. Chark, WR, LSU
Round 2 (56) Ronald Jones II, RB, USC
Round 3 (71) Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State
Round 3 (99) Cole Madison, OG, Washington State
Round 4 (106) Dane Cruikshank, S, Arizona
Round 4 (113) Davontae Harris, CB, Illinois State
Round 5 (149) Tim Settle, DT, Virginia Tech
Round 5 (160) Will Dissly, TE, Washington

Nice!
Ward, Davenport, Chark, Jones, Rudolph and Settle.

Barf!
Madison, Cruikshank, Harris (he’s a S, IMO) and Dissly.

Substitute Tarvarius Moore for Rudolph, Mike White for Madison, Will Richardson for Cruikshank, Holton Hill for Harris and Durham Smythe for Dissly.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

Also, apparently Reuters sees Denver getting a 2nd round pick from Buffalo in addition to the Two #1’s.

I would like to see Vita Vea at the #12, Leighton Vander Esch #21 (if he's there), And Will Hernandez at #40.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

I'm not pouting over Talib, I just think building a team that way is extremely dumb. If we traded talib because Roby has matured enough to be the man then let him be the man. Spending a high draft pick to replace what we already have/had pisses me off.

Originally Posted by dogfish

i do get where you're coming from, and i'm not saying you're wrong. . . i do think you're kind of ignoring the fact that the draft isn't all about this year, though. . . roby IS going to replace aqib this year, and they used part of that cap space to give chris harris a badly-needed raise. . . if they draft denzel ward or minkah fitzpatrick, they aren't taking him to take 'qib's spot this year-- they're drafting the guy to be a badass foundation of our defensive backfield for the next ten years. . . talib might have a year or two left at high a high level, max. . . and elway had to think on it overnight before deciding not to fire vance-- he's not pushing all in for this year. . . he would have been more aggressive freeing up cap space to go after impact free agents if that was the case. . .

Also have to take into consideration that Roby is a free agent after this year and we may not be able to afford his price tag if he has a big year. Wouldn't be a bad idea to have a back-up plan. Especially one that isn't 32 years old.

Originally Posted by 7alpha30

Between NYG and Cleveland, who is more likely to trade down? There's going to be a ton offered.

Honestly, I don't think either one of them is likely to trade out.

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

Also have to take into consideration that Roby is a free agent after this year and we may not be able to afford his price tag if he has a big year. Wouldn't be a bad idea to have a back-up plan. Especially one that isn't 32 years old.

If Roby has a big year, they'll find a way to sign him at his age. Truly top CBs are a hard find.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

I'm not pouting over Talib, I just think building a team that way is extremely dumb. If we traded talib because Roby has matured enough to be the man then let him be the man. Spending a high draft pick to replace what we already have/had pisses me off.

Originally Posted by topscribe

If Roby has a big year, they'll find a way to sign him at his age. Truly top CBs are a hard find.

Fair enough...but then you end up with close to 50 mil in cap space dedicated to two corners and an OLB.

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

Fair enough...but then you end up with close to 50 mil in cap space dedicated to two corners and an OLB.

Well, just be thankful I'm not the GM.

I’ve been trying to find ways Denver/Elway will **** this up, Peter King mentioned trading all the way down to 15 with the Cards ... that oughta just about do it.

Originally Posted by topscribe

I would like to see Vita Vea at the #12, Leighton Vander Esch #21 (if he's there), And Will Hernandez at #40.

Hernandez never makes it past Lions at 20 in these mocks.

Originally Posted by Jaded

I’ve been trying to find ways Denver/Elway will **** this up, Peter King mentioned trading all the way down to 15 with the Cards ... that oughta just about do it.

Depends. In that scenario, I have to imagine Elway demands Arizona's 2019 first round pick...which could be top 5 as well. Their division is tough and their non-division schedule is tougher. Obviously, things have to play out, but on paper, I could see them winning only 4 or 5 games.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Hernandez never makes it past Lions at 20 in these mocks.

Yes, it's likely he won't be there. But the draft is pretty deep at guard, so the Broncos should
do okay in that scenario. I can't dictate to them whom they're going to take, anyway.

This year we need to stay put at 5. We cant mess this draft up. How often to we get to pick in the top 5? Stay put and get someone that can actually make a difference on this team.

Originally Posted by DenBronx

This year we need to stay put at 5. We cant mess this draft up. How often to we get to pick in the top 5? Stay put and get someone that can actually make a difference on this team.

Chris Harris agrees with you.

Originally Posted by G_Money

Chris Harris agrees with you.

The defense wanted TS to start. Imagine if we had done the smart thing and actually developed the first round QB. No matter what, we'd have been in a better spot, either by having a real QB, being in a better position to draft a real QB, or knowing that the QB we drafted was worth continued development.

The defense, in all of it's ******* intellect, is so shortsighted it's not even funny. The same 'we're trying to win right now' with a 5-11 team that has gotten worse each year, as has the defense, is just an echoing of absurdity.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

The defense wanted TS to start. Imagine if we had done the smart thing and actually developed the first round QB. No matter what, we'd have been in a better spot, either by having a real QB, being in a better position to draft a real QB, or knowing that the QB we drafted was worth continued development.

The defense, in all of it's ******* intellect, is so shortsighted it's not even funny. The same 'we're trying to win right now' with a 5-11 team that has gotten worse each year, as has the defense, is just an echoing of absurdity.

I thank God everyday that you're not in charge of the Broncos.