Thread: Why Case Keenum May Turn Out To Be The Steal Of The Century......

Originally Posted by King87

Your point is still valid, though. TS was out there in what had to be bad pain. I have all kinds of love for QBs that are good (in my eyes) but when a QB is bad I just hate them man.

I need to be grounded back down a bit.

This is beautiful. Makes me feel your pain and want to hold you. Long time.

You should show your human side more often, makes me moist.

Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56

I think Keenum is bad because:
1) his arm strength is poor. He’s a guy who must set his feet to get any power or zip. He floats a lot of throws especially deep.
2) his accuracy is tied to his ability to throw with power so as his zip has tailed off, so has his accuracy
3) he isn’t comfortable in the current system. You can see it. He looks lost and scared more often than not. He hasn’t mastered the offense and it’s not built for him. He never had to be “the guy” before. He isn’t handling it well.
4) I think he’s still nursing a knee injury which is why he doesn’t move around as much as he did in Minnesota and it’s contributing to #1 and #2. It’s affecting his psyche. He knows he doesn’t have the arm talent without his legs and he’s trying so hard not to throw Ints that he’s holding the ball too long and taking sacks. Then he feels pressure to make a play when we’re behind and because he’s not moving around like he used to, he doesn’t read the field well and throws Ints anyway.

So to summarize:
- doesn’t have the ideal physical traits
- might be playing injured which limits him even more
- system not built for his “strengths” or we’ll say “less weak areas” / poorly coached
- lacks mental toughness in bad situations

This analysis is WAY too complicated. It's much simpler than that. In Minnesota, he had a VERY talented team around him. They won 12 games, and you can bet that it wasn't Keenum dragging a bunch of nobodies to 12-4.

He didn't prevent their winning, he did his job. That is who he is.

A journeyman QB who can win 12 games - if you put a really good offense around him, and have a really good defense so he's not playing from behind and trying to make low percentage plays happen.

It's those 3rd and long situations, or those games where you're behind by 14 points and need to put together a couple of long TD drives to get back in the game. That's when you need elite QB play and he's just not capable of that.

Well in MN last year they were so good he was rarely in anything like that kind of situation. And when he was, he was surrounded by playmakers and had a solid OL to protect him. Especially, he had a TE like Kyle Rudolph. The Broncos have Jeff Heurmann. That is just not the same.

Just give me Sam Bradford at this point.

Originally Posted by Dapper Dan

Just give me Sam Bradford at this point.

He'd just get hurt and then we would be back to Keenum.

Sam Bradford is talented, you can forget it.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Sam Bradford is talented, you can forget it.

"The best ability is availability." Bradford's talent is irrelevant if he is constantly in the training room, because you can't throw any TDs from there.

To be fair to Bradford, CK can't really throw TDs in general.

Originally Posted by Cugel

"The best ability is availability." Bradford's talent is irrelevant if he is constantly in the training room, because you can't throw any TDs from there.

That’s my favorite cliche.

Originally Posted by Jaded

That’s my favorite cliche.

He's played two full seasons of his 8 in the league. And he's on his 4th team now. Yeah, let's go get that guy.

I fancy a run on Bridgewater.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

He's played two full seasons of his 8 in the league. And he's on his 4th team now. Yeah, let's go get that guy.

I tried to find Garrett Grayson’s stats as a starter. Not much luck there.

You only pick up Bradford if you feel you have a shot at making the playoffs or SB. Bradford isnt that kind of guy and has almost no mobility to which he would need with our Oline issues. Denver needs to quit worrying about Broken down and subpar QB's and go after a blue chipper come next years draft. Its time to rebuild properly.

I fail to see the risk in signing a cheap veteran. He’s a better quarterback than Grayson. I’m literally talking about getting him for the rest of the season. I’m not talking about investing in the guy.

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

I fancy a run on Bridgewater.

He'd be nice to tutor a young talented QB.

Originally Posted by Dapper Dan

I fail to see the risk in signing a cheap veteran. He’s a better quarterback than Grayson. I’m literally talking about getting him for the rest of the season. I’m not talking about investing in the guy.

I realize that but for what purpose? What does Denver really gain there? We know what Bradford brings to the table but dont know what Grayson brings to the table if anything. Bradford only makes sense if you are trying to make the postseason which i dont think is going to happen with or without Bradford. I just dont understand why we would waste our time at this point of the season.