Thread: Why Case Keenum May Turn Out To Be The Steal Of The Century......

Originally Posted by GEM

You guys want to stop before it gets out of hand?

Ive stopped with him, i promise. Its no longer a discussion at this point so sorry about that.

Originally Posted by GEM

You guys want to stop before it gets out of hand?

Ah, it's never out of hand between North and me, Gem. We've always done this.

Originally Posted by Rick

No. Unless he goes and does it for a full season, multiple times.

After his second season one could say yes with those numbers but they disappeared since then.

He was very average during the regular season this year and came alive in the playoffs. He was outstanding in the playoffs, he deserves that recognition. Very pedestrian over the 7 regular season games he played.

Thanks Rick, and i agree with you 100%.

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

Jesus man, do you just want to argue?!

He's trolling. He gets in those moods.

Originally Posted by topscribe

He's trolling. He gets in those moods.

Actually im really not. Lol

Im just trying to gauge at what point a QB is considered a franchise guy based on some of the comments of you guys. I can go back to trolling if you really want.

Originally Posted by Northman

Im just asking. Is that a problem or no?

You are feisty today brother. All good.

What makes me get sharp like that is this:

No one would call Foles a franchise QB. So the question you pose is assumed as a cross-examination type dismissal. But what does franchise QB even mean? This thing is not defined, except in the loosest sense. So I see your question and think, damn, this dude just wants to stir up some controversy and get a little friction going.

Originally Posted by Northman

Actually im really not. Lol

Im just trying to gauge at what point a QB is considered a franchise guy based on some of the comments of you guys. I can go back to trolling if you really want.

I think I prefer you that way. You make more sense. (Not that you make much, anyway.)

Originally Posted by GEM

You guys want to stop before it gets out of hand?

A few years back, I stepped into the Mane, not knowing what I was getting into. Then North
intervened and saved me from that pack of wolves there. I'll never forget that. And I will
always make sure to express my appreciation by telling him what a horse's ass he is . . .

Originally Posted by Hawgdriver

You are feisty today brother. All good.

What makes me get sharp like that is this:

No one would call Foles a franchise QB. So the question you pose is assumed as a cross-examination type dismissal. But what does franchise QB even mean? This thing is not defined, except in the loosest sense. So I see your question and think, damn, this dude just wants to stir up some controversy and get a little friction going.

Not at all but you have to understand that my boy Top has said that if Keenum repeats having a successful year this year that he would then consider Keenum a franchise QB. Do you realize that with the Eagles as a franchise that Foles is 16-5 as starter? Now with a SB ring to which he played in? So while i would agree with you that i wouldnt consider Foles yet a franchise QB why then would Keenum having a successful season mean that he himself would be considered a franchise QB? I really dont think its unreasonable for me to ask that question when "technically" one guy has done a lot more than the other for one franchise. I really dont know why people get so bent out of shape just because i dont think the guy is necessarily the answer AT THIS MOMENT. I think (in my opinion) its going to take more than a couple of good seasons to really see if Keenum can actually be a franchise QB. Again, my opinion.

Originally Posted by Northman

Not at all but you have to understand that my boy Top has said that if Keenum repeats having a successful year this year that he would then consider Keenum a franchise QB. Do you realize that with the Eagles as a franchise that Foles is 16-5 as starter? Now with a SB ring to which he played in? So while i would agree with you that i wouldnt consider Foles yet a franchise QB why then would Keenum having a successful season mean that he himself would be considered a franchise QB? I really dont think its unreasonable for me to ask that question when "technically" one guy has done a lot more than the other for one franchise. I really dont know why people get so bent out of shape just because i dont think the guy is necessarily the answer AT THIS MOMENT. I think (in my opinion) its going to take more than a couple of good seasons to really see if Keenum can actually be a franchise QB. Again, my opinion.

Well, I'm a big Foles fan. I should be since he's a UofA alumnus.

But there's a difference between him and Keenum (of whom I'm not nearly as big a fan,
believe it or not). Foles played for a better team. A far better team. And still he played
barely well enough during the year so the defense and the rest of the supporting cast
could win the games.

Keenum had to win games. If you don't believe me, go back and watch his games. He
played under immense pass rush pressure all year. As I mentioned, after Calvin Cook
was injured, he had a mediocre running game by Y/A, and was regularly faced with
long 2nd and 3rd downs.

Foles had an MVP Super Bowl. Maybe this served as a breakout point for him. I hope
so, as his fan. But he needs more than a game.

Keenum had a breakout year. Big difference. I have far more confidence in him than
I would have had in Foles. That's why I don't believe Keenum will tank, as opposed to
Foles, with whom I would have been very nervous about the future.

I'm hoping we take a QB in the first round and CK tears his ACL so we can develop the young back and be done with it.

Originally Posted by topscribe

A few years back, I stepped into the Mane, not knowing what I was getting into. Then North
intervened and saved me from that pack of wolves there. I'll never forget that. And I will
always make sure to express my appreciation by telling him what a horse's ass he is . . .

Thats right Greybush, never forget!

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

I'm hoping we take a QB in the first round and CK tears his ACL so we can develop the young back and be done with it.

Never wish that.

You can hope he sucks so we develop the guy but don't wish an injury man.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

I'm hoping we take a QB in the first round and CK tears his ACL so we can develop the young back and be done with it.

Nah, despite my doubts about CK he seems like a very humble and cool guy. Im more disappointed that we kept Lynch however.

Originally Posted by Northman

Thats right Greybush, never forget!

GreyBEARD, you turd. Graybeard!