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    If the RB class is so deep take 2, dump CJ Anderson and quit pretending that Booker was ever a 2nd round talent.
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    Other than Nelson, this would be ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    If the RB class is so deep take 2, dump CJ Anderson and quit pretending that Booker was ever a 2nd round talent.
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    I predict that Barkley will not be the best RB in this draft class.


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    Dumping CJ is dumb in favor of booker who lacks talent and is a bigger version of Ronnie Hillman. I think Studes is gone because he wasn't a booker fan anymore, and loves him some CJ. Pretty sure that's why he was dumped so that they can force feed booker who will show how awesome he is with is 3.6 YPC avg...Ugggghhhhhhh!
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    Anybody else concerned that for all the talk of Barkley being this generational talent, future hall of famer as Cugel claims, his actual on the field production was mediocre at best. He only had 5 100 yd games last season. He never rushed for 1500 yards in a season. I just think it's funny that so many people claim it's a bad idea to draft a guard at 5 but drafting a RB who was 28th in the nation in rushing yards is a splendid idea. RBs have a short shelf life while a guard could last 10-15 years.

    I'd rather have Nelson and Sony Michel than Barkley and Wynn, but that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazoe60 View Post
    Anybody else concerned that for all the talk of Barkley being this generational talent, future hall of famer as Cugel claims, his actual on the field production was mediocre at best. He only had 5 100 yd games last season. He never rushed for 1500 yards in a season. I just think it's funny that so many people claim it's a bad idea to draft a guard at 5 but drafting a RB who was 28th in the nation in rushing yards is a splendid idea. RBs have a short shelf life while a guard could last 10-15 years.

    I'd rather have Nelson and Sony Michel than Barkley and Wynn, but that's just me.
    Nelson is only one I've read being called once in a type generation player. That said, I wouldn't knock Barkley for not hitting 1,500 rushing, in 9 of 12 regular season games he had 17 or fewer carries, couple that most of those games being blowouts wins it looks like he was being pulled early from games. If this draft was bereft of running back talent that could change things but apparently this draft is deep at running back so passing on Barkley isn't killer. I personally like Nick Chubb from UGA. He's not flashy but the number are consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazoe60 View Post
    Anybody else concerned that for all the talk of Barkley being this generational talent, future hall of famer as Cugel claims, his actual on the field production was mediocre at best. He only had 5 100 yd games last season. He never rushed for 1500 yards in a season. I just think it's funny that so many people claim it's a bad idea to draft a guard at 5 but drafting a RB who was 28th in the nation in rushing yards is a splendid idea. RBs have a short shelf life while a guard could last 10-15 years.

    I'd rather have Nelson and Sony Michel than Barkley and Wynn, but that's just me.
    He's averaging about 5.9 YPC. His problem wasn't effectiveness, it was what TXBronc touched on. He only had 217 carries on the year because they were pulling him early due to big leads. If he had 50 more carries, he'd have easily gone over 1500 this year, he was 4 yards away from it last year. It's borderline nitpicky to say "he hasn't rushed for over 1500 yards" when he came within one carry of hitting that mark. It's technically true, but it's 4 freaking yards...

    If we don't go Barkley, I'd be alright with grabbing Penny in the second or third round.

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    That we made a poor choice at #5....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    If the RB class is so deep take 2, dump CJ Anderson and quit pretending that Booker was ever a 2nd round talent.
    I think Booker is good to have in the rotation, but I’m getting tired of the coaching staff giving us a sales pitch. I’ve never seen him show he can be as productive as CJ. CJ is a complete back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyaka View Post
    He's averaging about 5.9 YPC. His problem wasn't effectiveness, it was what TXBronc touched on. He only had 217 carries on the year because they were pulling him early due to big leads. If he had 50 more carries, he'd have easily gone over 1500 this year, he was 4 yards away from it last year. It's borderline nitpicky to say "he hasn't rushed for over 1500 yards" when he came within one carry of hitting that mark. It's technically true, but it's 4 freaking yards...

    If we don't go Barkley, I'd be alright with grabbing Penny in the second or third round.
    Sony Michel averaged 7.9 yards per carry.

    Joel Klatt just gave some stats on 104.3 the fan and pointed out that Barkley gained a total of 6 yards against ranked teams in the 4th quarter last season. Ouch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazoe60 View Post
    Sony Michel averaged 7.9 yards per carry.

    Joel Klatt just gave some stats on 104.3 the fan and pointed out that Barkley gained a total of 6 yards against ranked teams in the 4th quarter last season. Ouch!
    Again, how many carries did he have in the 4th quarter of those games? If his team was blowing them out and he didn't get carries, that can't be held against him. He only had two games last year with over 20 carries. It is outside of his control how many carries they use him on since he does not call the plays. Stats can be stacked to support your argument if you omit information like that. (not saying you are intentionally doing that, just pointing it out that you've gotta look at the whole picture) I'm not saying I wouldn't take Michel either, I like Barkley best because I think he is a beast and very, very quick for the way he's built. I can see an argument for either running back, I just have my personal preferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazoe60 View Post
    Sony Michel averaged 7.9 yards per carry.

    Joel Klatt just gave some stats on 104.3 the fan and pointed out that Barkley gained a total of 6 yards against ranked teams in the 4th quarter last season. Ouch!
    What Klatt said squares precisely with his film.

    He is a generational talent. He's a special player. He's a 230 pound C-Mac. If he's used the right way, he should be an LT type player. But he's not Todd Gurley and he's not Zeke and not Fournette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevation inc View Post
    Dumping CJ is dumb in favor of booker who lacks talent and is a bigger version of Ronnie Hillman. I think Studes is gone because he wasn't a booker fan anymore, and loves him some CJ. Pretty sure that's why he was dumped so that they can force feed booker who will show how awesome he is with is 3.6 YPC avg...Ugggghhhhhhh!
    CJ certainly seems to think so, with the negative way he responded to Studesville's firing with a public outburst.

    But it does not appear the Broncos intend to keep CJ from the lukewarm way Elway talks about him, while insisting vehemently that Paxton Lynch will be on the roster or that the team is keeping DT and Sanders for instance. Very different tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgdriver View Post
    What Klatt said squares precisely with his film.

    He is a generational talent. He's a special player. He's a 230 pound C-Mac. If he's used the right way, he should be an LT type player. But he's not Todd Gurley and he's not Zeke and not Fournette.
    This.

    But, that fits in with what the Broncos want. They loved Christian McCaffrey last year and were scheming how to get up to #12 if he were still on the board there. So, if Barkley is available at #5 and you think he could be another matchup nightmare like McCaffrey, another Edgerrin James perhaps, then the fact that he's not Leonard Fournette is not a problem.

    So what if he's not a 25-30 carries a game dude?

    They want to utilize him by putting him in space and creating mismatch nightmares for defenders.

    He's too big and strong for a CB for most safeties, and too fast for LBs.

    Sure there are RBs who might be available in the 2nd round, but nothing like him. Was Christian McCaffrey worthy of the 8th pick of the draft last year? He had only 435 yards rushing and 2 TDs. But, he also had 80 receptions in his rookie year.

    If Barkley has that kind of season? He'll be rookie of the year.
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