Thread: If Buffalo or Miami Trades Up to #5 with Denver

Originally Posted by Freyaka

Just Cugel doing Cugel things...

Typical that you idiots keep criticizing me without bothering to just use Google. You're incurably lazy, ignorant and judgmental at the same damn time.

Originally Posted by Cugel

I don't think otherwise. I like Josh Rosen. But, all the talk in January was that he was going to the Giants at #2, and then all this negative info came out on him. His own coach just said that Sam Darnold was the guy he would draft if he were in Cleveland, and then tried to walk it back. Now the Giants appear set to take Darnold or Allen at #2 and the Jets are all in on Baker Mayfield. Rosen is sliding.

Unless someone is willing to move up to #4 to get him with Cleveland's pick he'll be on the board at #5.

Essentially he's more injury prone, and people have character concerns:


Personally, I would probably draft him at #5 if he were there and I had to make a choice, but then it doesn't look like Elway will do it. Perhaps Rosen's visit will allay some concerns, but really, what can he do to convince people that he's not injury prone. He's not as big or tough as Allen or Darnold, and he hasn't been as healthy as Mayfield.

The guy has missed a few games. Not like he went on IR year after year. We went through 3 qbs last year...does that mean Trevor, Brock and pax are all injury prone? Brady missed an entire season and is always on the injury report, is he injury prone?


Mora said it because Rosen does not want to go to Cleveland. Rosen said as much. He also said that Rosen is not the right fit for Cleveland. Tthe pats are interested in Rosen. They kno a thing or about qbs.

If Allen goes #1 Rosen could fall to 4 because darnold will go 2 and Baker 3. But I think the browns will go darnold at 1 and some team will trade w the giants for Rosen at 2.

Originally Posted by Cugel

I don't think otherwise. I like Josh Rosen. But, all the talk in January was that he was going to the Giants at #2, and then all this negative info came out on him. His own coach just said that Sam Darnold was the guy he would draft if he were in Cleveland, and then tried to walk it back. Now the Giants appear set to take Darnold or Allen at #2 and the Jets are all in on Baker Mayfield. Rosen is sliding.

Unless someone is willing to move up to #4 to get him with Cleveland's pick he'll be on the board at #5.

Essentially he's more injury prone, and people have character concerns:


Personally, I would probably draft him at #5 if he were there and I had to make a choice, but then it doesn't look like Elway will do it. Perhaps Rosen's visit will allay some concerns, but really, what can he do to convince people that he's not injury prone. He's not as big or tough as Allen or Darnold, and he hasn't been as healthy as Mayfield.

I'm calling it now (and I'll hate it if it comes true) If Rosen is available at pick #4, New England will trade up and grab him. They've been amassing picks to trade up and take Brady's heir.

You are crazy if you believe Rosen will slide.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

I'm calling it now (and I'll hate it if it comes true) If Rosen is available at pick #4, New England will trade up and grab him. They've been amassing picks to trade up and take Brady's heir.

You are crazy if you believe Rosen will slide.

This is a real possibility, but I don't recall the Patriots ever trading away the farm just to get one player.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

This is a real possibility, but I don't recall the Patriots ever trading away the farm just to get one player.

I don't recall the patriots ever being on the verge of facing life without Tom Brady either. We're in uncharted territory currently. I'm anticipating a Gronkowski trade coming up soon, I don't see him going for less than a 2nd rounder. That would give them 5 picks in the first two rounds. That said, the Bills have a little more ammo than they do to move up and even if they are willing to, they may not have the draft capital.

NE has proved more than anyone that you can find a franchise QB after the top 10 with Brady and Jimmy G.

I suspect they take a QB but doubt they trade up for one in the high first, they will nab a guy in late first or early second.

Brady will still be here a couple years at-least.

As the draft gets closer I'm starting to lean towards Denver trading back. There seems to be good value in the mid first round for ILB's, OL and WR all of which Denver needs.

Originally Posted by Cugel

The real question is: "who really wants Josh Rosen?" Because he's the one guy among the top 4 QBs who might slide out of the top 10.

NFL Network reported yesterday that the Broncos were bringing in Josh Rosen in the next few days for a private workout. He was also going to visit the Chargers. I don't think he'll slide from the Top 10. If any of the four do, my guess would be Mayfield.

Originally Posted by broncofaninfla

As the draft gets closer I'm starting to lean towards Denver trading back. There seems to be good value in the mid first round for ILB's, OL and WR all of which Denver needs.

In addition, a lack of *elite* players at these positions worthy of a #5 pick.

Originally Posted by Rick

NE has proved more than anyone that you can find a franchise QB after the top 10 with Brady and Jimmy G.

I suspect they take a QB but doubt they trade up for one in the high first, they will nab a guy in late first or early second.

Brady will still be here a couple years at-least.

Ive heard they like Rosen, but they also have quite a bit of interest in Lamar Jackson. I would not be surprised to see them go for Lamar with one of their first and a T with the other.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

I don't recall the patriots ever being on the verge of facing life without Tom Brady either. We're in uncharted territory currently. I'm anticipating a Gronkowski trade coming up soon, I don't see him going for less than a 2nd rounder. That would give them 5 picks in the first two rounds. That said, the Bills have a little more ammo than they do to move up and even if they are willing to, they may not have the draft capital.

This true, Brady is close to the end of his career, but Belicheat doesn't seem to panic. Imo to try and go from the 31st pick to the 4th pick would be dispiration.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

This true, Brady is close to the end of his career, but Belicheat doesn't seem to panic. Imo to try and go from the 31st pick to the 4th pick would be dispiration.

he only needs to go from 23 now!

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

he only needs to go from 23 now!

23rd is still a long way to do.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

23rd is still a long way to do.

Lamar Jackson should be there at 23. Rosen won't be, no matter what Cugel tries to tell us. They really like Rosen.

Originally Posted by Freyaka

Lamar Jackson should be there at 23. Rosen won't be, no matter what Cugel tries to tell us. They really like Rosen.

I like Cug, he's feisty, but I don't see Rosen slipping out of the top 10.