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    Default If Buffalo or Miami Trades Up to #5 with Denver

    How much do the Broncos love the players at 5 if 3 QBs are gone? Say Browns draft Barkley or Chubb at 4 and Denver is sitting at 5 with Baker or Rosen or Allen left.

    If Miami (Gase has relationships in Denver) wants to move up to 5 to beat out Buffalo.....and offer their 1st next year with their number 11 pick....does Denver jump? Miami has lost a number of good players this offseason, they could suck next year. Id take the trade.

    Now if Buffalo offers 12 and 22 to move up.....do we do it? Or what if they offer their 12th pick and their first next year? They could suck too.


    If this went down, who would the picks be then?

    If it were me, Id trade down and begin stockpiling picks to truly build this team into a real dynasty.

    Denver could still take a flyer on a late round QB as a roll of the dice and continue forward with Case, Kelly and Lynch. Wonder if Buffalo has interest in Kelly?
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    Denver got the best player in the 2011 draft, they should do that more often.

    Zierlein has Denver moving down with Buffalo and taking the ND LT at 12 and Zaire Alexander at 22. No thanks.
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    Josh Jackson and Tremaine Edmunds would be my guess. Maybe Vea.
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    The first question is how much they like Nelson because, in your scenario, he's still there.

    Let's say they want to pass on Nelson, should they trade down and pick up a next year's first from Miami or Buffalo, it might give them the ammunition to trade up next year for a QBOTF they may like or need (presuming Keenum busts and Lynch/Kelly are not the answer).

    If they move down to #11 or #12, they could probably have any other OL on the board besides Nelson with his teammate McGlinchey being the most likely. Yes, we have Bolles and Veldheer now but McGlinchey would give us a solid backup in both spots with a year to learn the system before he has to take over full time.

    Let's say the Broncos want something besides an offensive lineman, I'd suspect any WR will still be on the board, most corners other than Fitzpatrick will still be there as a replacement for Talib, Guice will still be there and most edge rushers except Chubb and possibly Landry.

    WOULD I take a trade down? Depends how sold I am on Nelson and what type of offers we hear. Lately, trading up for a QB has become more expensive on draft day than the fabled trade chart says it would cost.

    Anyone know what QBs will likely be first-rounders next year?
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    i am not sure how good Gase's relationships are in Denver anymore!!!

    But unless the team is set on mcglinchy and a cb (or similar) with 2 first round picks - i really want us to draft the best player available

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    1.) Gase burned those bridges.

    2.) Why is Miami trading up?
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    i don't think there's any chance we pass on barkley if he's still there. . .

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    I like a future#1 over a 12 and 22 this year. As previously posted...if CK doesn't work out, we'll wanna be in position to take a franchise QB next year. No matter how bad Miami is, 2 #1s will get us where we would need to be.

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    And I'd jump on the LT from ND or Texas at that spot. Maybe even the UGA ILB.

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    If we're trading back, I want Calvin Ridley. Emmanuel and DT are only getting older, and McDaniels is seemingly the only guy to ever walk through our front office capable of finding WRs in the early part of the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderArmour View Post
    If we're trading back, I want Calvin Ridley. Emmanuel and DT are only getting older, and McDaniels is seemingly the only guy to ever walk through our front office capable of finding WRs in the early part of the draft.
    I would take an offensive tackle over a wide receiver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TXBRONC View Post
    I would take an offensive tackle over a wide receiver.
    i would take literally any other position on the field (not kicker or punter, obviously-- they don't count) over a first round wide receiver. . . you just don't need top guys at that position, they're superfluous. . . look at the receiver groups in the super bowl last year. . . between julio jones, antonio brown, AJ green, deandre hopkins, odell beckham, michael thomas, TY hilton, and larry fitzgerald, they have zero rings. . . DT is the only top flight WR in the game today who has a ring. . . also, calvin johnson, chad johnson, terrell owens, marvin harrison, randy moss and andre johnson have a grand total of zero rings combined. . . you don't build great teams from the outside in-- wide receivers just aren't foundational pieces. . . you're better off investing your resources elsewhere. . . our current FO can't wait to stop paying so much for receivers. . .

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    Elway has always said that first round picks are QBs, CB, pass rushers, and T.....
    Chubb, QB or trade down....

    Buffalo will have to trade 12, 22 and a 2nd....Miami would have to trade #11 and next years first and a 2nd or 3rd rd also.



    Im starting to think we move up to 2 for Rosen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARHORSE View Post
    How much do the Broncos love the players at 5 if 3 QBs are gone? Say Browns draft Barkley or Chubb at 4 and Denver is sitting at 5 with Baker or Rosen or Allen left.

    If Miami (Gase has relationships in Denver) wants to move up to 5 to beat out Buffalo.....and offer their 1st next year with their number 11 pick....does Denver jump? Miami has lost a number of good players this offseason, they could suck next year. Id take the trade.

    Now if Buffalo offers 12 and 22 to move up.....do we do it? Or what if they offer their 12th pick and their first next year? They could suck too.


    If this went down, who would the picks be then?

    If it were me, Id trade down and begin stockpiling picks to truly build this team into a real dynasty.

    Denver could still take a flyer on a late round QB as a roll of the dice and continue forward with Case, Kelly and Lynch. Wonder if Buffalo has interest in Kelly?
    Gase will have to move up to #4.

    Gase's relationship with Denver is running up the score.

    For that matter, if Cleveland takes a QB at # 1 which I think they probably will, I see them moving the #4 for a ransom to someone regardless. Denver more than likely will not have a QB to pick from at 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underrated29 View Post
    Elway has always said that first round picks are QBs, CB, pass rushers, and T.....
    Chubb, QB or trade down....

    Buffalo will have to trade 12, 22 and a 2nd....Miami would have to trade #11 and next years first and a 2nd or 3rd rd also.



    Im starting to think we move up to 2 for Rosen.
    I don't think that will happen unless we can unload Lynch.

    Plus, it would make King happy, which is counterintuitive to my philosophy.

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