Thread: Broncos trade for OT Jared Veldheer

Originally Posted by Jaded

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5829/jared-veldheer

FWIW, this site saying Denver on hook for full $10.2, but I didn’t follow the link they gave.

If he’s healthy he’ll be worth it.

Originally Posted by slim

So he is better than Watson!

exactly. . .

Question, what are the chances John Elway is trying to completely tank the value of this franchise to make it easier to buy?

Originally Posted by VonDoom

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

Apparently owed$10 mil and fans thought way too much.

Looking at Over the Cap, $3.25 million was a prorated signing bonus - the Cardinals will have to eat that. So he should only count $6.9 million against the cap for us, which is a great deal if he's healthy and somewhat good. If Watson gets cut, we have some dead money but save $4.5 million to offset some of this as well.

It is so sad that a player 'somewhat good' is considered a major upgrade lol

Originally Posted by Jaded

Question, what are the chances John Elway is trying to completely tank the value of this franchise to make it easier to buy?

Stop posting

Originally Posted by Jaded

Question, what are the chances John Elway is trying to completely tank the value of this franchise to make it easier to buy?

My guess is they aren’t excited about taking a tackle high enough in the draft to start, so they did this because they think there’s better depth at other positions in the top of the draft. It’s all I’ve got

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

If he’s healthy he’ll be worth it.

He hasn’t been healthy or good in 3 seasons, so I have a dilemma: do we insist Veldheer is the ‘17 Veldheer like we do CK, or are both what they were prior to ‘17? A franchise QB and a broken down cap liability, or, a solid T and a journeyman backup QB.

Originally Posted by Jaded

He hasn’t been healthy or good in 3 seasons, so I have a dilemma: do we insist Veldheer is the ‘17 Veldheer like we do CK, or are both what they were prior to ‘17? A franchise QB and a broken down cap liability, or, a solid T and a journeyman backup QB.

I can’t speak to that. I haven’t paid any attention to him the last two years

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

My guess is they aren’t excited about taking a tackle high enough in the draft to start, so they did this because they think there’s better depth at other positions in the top of the draft. It’s all I’ve got

My issue is there was a far better T on the trade block, a legit Top 10 LT (when healthy), it wouldve taken a premium pick to get it done though. I don’t even think Denver was in the conversation, so if they didn’t see a T in this draft worth a 2nd round pick what are they sitting on the 2nd round pick for when a legit solution is available for about the same salary?

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

I can’t speak to that. I haven’t paid any attention to him the last two years

Iirc, he’s been on IR for most of it.

Originally Posted by Jaded

My issue is there was a far better T on the trade block, a legit Top 10 LT (when healthy), it wouldve taken a premium pick to get it done though. I don’t even think Denver was in the conversation, so if they didn’t see a T in this draft worth a 2nd round pick what are they sitting on the 2nd round pick for when a legit solution is available for about the same salary?

The cat from Miami was on his last year and he wants bank. Tagging him for another year would be a stopgap, and paying a RT isn't awful (look at Philly) but it's not delightful, either.

Originally Posted by slim

Stop posting

What? Was it something I said?

Originally Posted by Jaded

My issue is there was a far better T on the trade block, a legit Top 10 LT (when healthy), it wouldve taken a premium pick to get it done though. I don’t even think Denver was in the conversation, so if they didn’t see a T in this draft worth a 2nd round pick what are they sitting on the 2nd round pick for when a legit solution is available for about the same salary?

Mike Sullivan is a hard ass and has too much say. I don't think he understands cost/benefit.

Veldheer's all right, if healthy. Switching from LT to RT is not actually a piece of cake, but he figured it out a few weeks into the season. I don't think he's worth the 10 million if that's what he winds up costing Denver, but he's an upgrade. Again, if healthy. We'll see.

I would still take Nelson in the first to help the line, and then grab a developmental tackle a bit later. Even after the trade Denver still has enough picks to work with (and a lot of needs) but I'd love a really strong guard and a RT to be drafted. Having Leary and Veldheer around to help show the new guys the ropes is good too.

Originally Posted by G_Money

Veldheer's all right, if healthy. Switching from LT to RT is not actually a piece of cake, but he figured it out a few weeks into the season. I don't think he's worth the 10 million if that's what he winds up costing Denver, but he's an upgrade. Again, if healthy. We'll see.

I would still take Nelson in the first to help the line, and then grab a developmental tackle a bit later. Even after the trade Denver still has enough picks to work with (and a lot of needs) but I'd love a really strong guard and a RT to be drafted. Having Leary and Veldheer around to help show the new guys the ropes is good too.

$7 million cash, $10 million cap