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    Default Josh Allen.....vs Elway

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRDSJJx9OtY

    Remind you of anyone?
    When people talk about the prototypical QB coming out of college, John Elway is the best prospect to have ever pushed the doors open and walked into the NFL.

    This kid imo is not quite as polished at this point.....but he sure looks like someone we all admire. When hes off, he throws balls way out of bounds....so did Elway. But his ability to rocket the ball downfield and into the deep outs on the run is parallel to John. John had better touch coming out of the backfield on swing passes and short underneath throws......but Elway also threw a heckuva lot more to this point in their careers.

    The upside is too much to ignore. Generational arm strength with an ability to run, as well as being strong.


    I like Baker Mayfield alot. Would not be upset if we drafted him. I like Darnold a little, Rosen less. But this is the guy I would take if we are set on using the pick on a QB being we are that high.
    IN PATON I TRUST.

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    Elway was the worst at swing passes out of the backfield that I’ve ever seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Elway was the worst at swing passes out of the backfield that I’ve ever seen.
    One of Elways greatest flaws IMO was he had no touch at all. But that wasn't his game when you rely on your cannon arm is your game.

    I think Mayfield is a great fit because of his leadership quality which Denver needs badly. He'll overcome 2".
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    War just murdered UR.
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    Just no.....

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    If we could trust our coaching staff to develop him properly I would like Allen.

    Since we have Keenum now maybe Elway is content with getting him and letting him sit.

    Rosen > Darnold = Allen > Mayfield

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    Quote Originally Posted by aberdien View Post
    If we could trust our coaching staff to develop him properly I would like Allen.

    Since we have Keenum now maybe Elway is content with getting him and letting him sit.

    Rosen > Darnold = Allen > Mayfield
    Cugel Stated the disparity in opinions about these quarterbacks extremely well. Analysts are all over the board. I've seen projection from guys with literally each one of these people as their top quarterback. That is what concerns me. Even the best talent evaluators can't seem to get a handle on who really projects. Mayfield is the leader and Allen is the physical talent, and darnold has the potential and Rosen is the genius. But nobody other than a few guys on this board are a hundred percent sure that their guy is absolutely the best quarterback in this draft.

    Very very very good talent evaluators have darnold according to their point system on nfl.com being an almost once-in-a-generation type player. When you look at the tape from last year I can't believe that. Very very very good talent evaluators talk about Rosen and the way he threads it. But you turn on the tape last year and he was getting beat up and at times he wasn't going through his progressions. Mayfield is small Allen is inaccurate. I just don't know that I feel comfortable drafting one of these guys number 5 overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsteve01 View Post
    Cugel. Stated the disparity in opinions about these quarterbacks extremely well. Analysts are all over the board I've seen projection from guys with literally each one of these people as their top quarterback. That is what concerns me. Even the best talent evaluators can't seem to get a handle on who really projects. Mayfield is the leader and Alan is the physical talent and darnold has the potential and Rosen is the genius. But nobody other than a few guys on this board are a hundred percent sure that they're guy is absolutely the best quarterback in this draft. Very very very good talent evaluators have darnold according to their point system on nfl.com being an almost once-in-a-generation type player. When you look at the tape from last year I can't believe that. Very very very good talent evaluators talk about Rosen and the way he threads it. But you turn on the tape last year and he was getting beat up and at times he wasn't going through his progressions. Mayfield is small Allen is inaccurate. I just don't know that I feel comfortable drafting one of these guys number 5 overall.

    Agree with this 100%. Which is why (since we still have Lynch and Kelly) i think Denver should go another direction at #5 and treat it like they did when they took Von by taking BPA. This draft is actually very deep at QB in my opinion to the point i would be ok with taking a guy like Rudolph or Falk later on if they want to go another "project" route. The fact we signed Keenum to me alleviates the need to take QB at #5 even though Case wont be a sure fire answer. But i dont see any of the top QB's being a definitive answer for Denver anyway, at least not compared to some of the other QB's in the draft. In my opinion Denver already has two Qb projects in Kelly and Lynch so to take another so high is incredibly dumb to me.

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    His completion percentage scares me, a lot. His talent is tremendous, and he's not coming off as entitled and or mentally insufficient. I think the Browns actually increased their chances of taking him when they traded for Tyrod Taylor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsteve01 View Post
    Chubbb
    Im not opposed to Chubb but if we go defense i would rather go with a LB like Smith as more of a priority than Chubb. But, considering how bad the offense is i think offense should be the pick at #5 except for QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Kinger View Post
    His completion percentage scares me, a lot. His talent is tremendous, and he's not coming off as entitled and or mentally insufficient. I think the Browns actually increased their chances of taking him when they traded for Tyrod Taylor.
    Allens accuracy is HORRIBLE considering the talent level he played against. Dude was ranked 82nd out of college QB's this past year. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    Allens accuracy is HORRIBLE considering the talent level he played against. Dude was ranked 82nd out of college QB's this past year. Lol
    If he was even in the low 60's he'd probably have gone from a preference pick in a lot of people's eyes to being the man! I don't think that he's unfixable, but god damn...50's....woof.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Y’all know I’m an OL Groupie but I think Jeudy is going to be worth missing out on a T, knock on wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Kinger View Post
    If he was even in the low 60's he'd probably have gone from a preference pick in a lot of people's eyes to being the man! I don't think that he's unfixable, but god damn...50's....woof.
    Can we please not have any "woof" jokes today? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    Can we please not have any "woof" jokes today? Lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Y’all know I’m an OL Groupie but I think Jeudy is going to be worth missing out on a T, knock on wood.

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